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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    that doesn't prove anything

    you are trying to argue that increased restrictions on AMERICANS who can legally own guns will decrease crime with guns

    You cannot



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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    ANY desirable commodity that is banned can and will be procured. Gangs and violent criminals will get guns. The drug ban is evidence of that reality. Its simply stupid beyond words to pretend that violent criminals would NOT find a way to import guns, right in that crate next to the one marked "crack". Japan has very restrictive gun laws and stiff penalties for illegal gun ownership. You know who has no problem procuring illegal firearms in Japan? Their gangs.

    But that IS your goal, isnt it...a complete ban on guns.
    I agree that it would be difficult to prevent highly organized criminal groups from obtaining guns, but can your average lunatic like James Holmes pick one up?

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You obviously have no good argument left.
    I don't believe he had any to start with. You see, its obvious that his motivations for gun restrictions are based on a desire to harass honest gun owners rather than the facade he spews of crime control. When one's entire argument is based on a dishonest premise, the house of cards quickly collapses



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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that doesn't prove anything

    you are trying to argue that increased restrictions on AMERICANS who can legally own guns will decrease crime with guns

    You cannot
    You think that America is so different that the trend for every other country in the world doesn't apply? Then the burden of proof is on you to show that.

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    The military can learn a lot from a state, at times.

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
    US firearm-related homicide deaths: 11,078
    United Kingdom firearm-related homicide deaths: 38
    There are far more auto related deaths than guns, would take your students car as well?
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
    I agree that it would be difficult to prevent highly organized criminal groups from obtaining guns, but can your average lunatic like James Holmes pick one up?
    so it is your learned and experienced opinion that someone who picked a theater that was in a gun free area rather than a closer or more populated theater where people could carry, and then snuck in the back door so as to avoid detection after propping that door open, (demonstrating premeditation of a high degree) is going to be prevented from committing Capital murder by a gun law that imposes something short of DEATH for violations?

    oh and if you claim banning honest people from owning guns will cause a trickle down deprivation for CRIMINALS you obviously aren't around fellow college students who smoke dope or snort coke

    say like this assclown

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah there have been a couple others who have made that claim only to have those who know who I am shoot them down.
    from above: "But if you are, that is just sad and goes far in explaining why gun rights are circling the drain here"


    You don't support gun rights.
    Indeed I do. I even own guns.


    You have accepted the faith based belief that laws that only apply to honest americans will somehow deter criminals without ruining our rights
    No, I acknowledge simple facts "like laws restrict availability" and that "guns are more deadly than knives". That doesn't mean I support the introduction of new and extensive gun control measures.

    PS Maybe go read Hannah Arendt's The Origins of Totalitarianism and focus on her remarks about the dangers of an ideology trumping reality

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Theres only one appropriate response:

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    Of course. Since you have nothing intelligent to contribute you revert back to your standard stupidity. You continue to point to an automatic weapons law (not ban) as your 'evidence'...but cant offer any evidence it has any relative bearing whatsoever. There are around 240,000 legally owned fully auto weapons in the US today. Care to guess how many there were prior to the laws changing in 34?

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
    I agree that it would be difficult to prevent highly organized criminal groups from obtaining guns, but can your average lunatic like James Holmes pick one up?
    I guess he can. He did, after all.
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