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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sure, if they are 21, and are duly licensed. or if they are varsity shooters who have target weapons. I was an All American at Yale and since I had a single room, the Campus cops had no problem with me sometimes having my Perazzi Mirage in my room

    normally it was at the police station but I would get it-walk through campus to the team room where we'd catch a bus to the range. On days that we had two day tournaments I'd usually take it to my room for cleaning. I was a celebrity among the cops since I was a world class shooter. I never threatened anyone with a gun. at all times I was over 18 (the legal age to buy a shotgun in CT at the time)

    my father was at yale right after the war and was a naval reserve officer. he often had "shore patrol" after classes and on those days he was in uniform with his sidearm. He never shot anyone either. and there were more than a few men (1947-48) who were in the same situation he was.
    I can tell you that I would feel so much less safe that I have no words to describe it.

    This news article came out three hours ago:
    Countries With High Gun Ownership Have More Firearms Deaths : Shots - Health News : NPR

    Here is an interesting graph:
    Chart: The U.S. has far more gun-related killings than any other developed country


    Another comparison:
    US firearm-related homicide deaths: 11,078
    United Kingdom firearm-related homicide deaths: 38

    Facts are stubborn things as your hero Reagan said

    I think it is selfish of you to let 11,000 people die per year so you can play with your toys.
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    Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69]

    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
    Do you think that students should be allowed to have guns on my college campus?
    As opposed to being good little sheep and victims waiting for another Cho and another VaTech incident???

    If those students were law abiding citizens you would have nothing to fear. If they weren't, your laws are useless and without someone to bail you out you are already screwed.

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
    I can tell you that I would feel so much less safe that I have no words to describe it.

    This news article came out three hours ago:
    Countries With High Gun Ownership Have More Firearms Deaths : Shots - Health News : NPR

    Here is an interesting graph:
    Chart: The U.S. has far more gun-related killings than any other developed country


    Another comparison:
    US firearm-related homicide deaths: 11,078
    United Kingdom firearm-related homicide deaths: 38
    Facts are stubborn things as your hero Reagan said
    I am not responsible for your irrational feelings of timidity. Indeed, several studies have indicated that gun hate is often evidenced by those who are terrified to make self defense a personal responsibility or a fear of accepting the risks of such a duty. So the fearful attempt to ban guns so they won't be reminded of their own failings. Your stupid reference to England has been vaporized so many times here we laugh when a new poster tries to use that argument

    England's rate of violence has increased as it has soiled its collective panties over gun ownership while we have bought more and more firearms here in the USA and our rate of violent crime has gone down

    Right after Columbine, NR did a study based on FBI and Interpol crime reports and found that white Americans have had a lower rate of gun violence than those of whites living in England, Scotland and most of Continental Europe. Factor out mope on mope killings and inner city drug shootings, and the USA is rather safe when it comes to guns. Most of the random killings take place in GUN FREE ZONES



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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    How do you know gun laws impacted his ability to purchase an AR15?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/18/us....html?hp&_r=1&

    And..we have already discussed Japan and clearly demonstrated that in Japan as in the US, those criminals invested in getting illegal weapons, do.
    Yes, we did indeed discuss japan, and you lost your **** when I pointed to the fact that gun crime was virtually non existent. And though ***you claimed*** guns were still easy to get by criminals, despite the absence of any significant gun crime, you never actually substantiated that.

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we have bought more and more firearms here in the USA and our rate of violent crime has gone downS
    US firearm-related homicide deaths: 11,078
    United Kingdom firearm-related homicide deaths: 38

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    As opposed to being good little sheep and victims waiting for another Cho and another VaTech incident???

    If those students were law abiding citizens you would have nothing to fear. If they weren't, your laws are useless and without someone to bail you out you are already screwed.

    Sheep that live safely in pens tell the stags that roam the wilds that living in the pen keeps them safe from wolves

    the problem is, while the wolf might take a few that live free and wild, the farmer castrates most of the ones in the pen while being able to shear or slaughter them at his convenience



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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
    US firearm-related homicide deaths: 11,078
    United Kingdom firearm-related homicide deaths: 38
    you don't read very well do you. violent CRIME


    and even if it could be proven that gun violence would go down with the sort of laws that you want, I reject it. Freedom is not the same as being completely safe.



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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Really? Gun laws restrict gun availability? Hows that working in Chicago? And for the record...you are cool with ARs...its just fully auto machine guns you are concerned about now?
    Do you not understand how the exchange of goods and people is facilitated between states, but that national boarders and international trade tends to be more restricted?

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Sheep that live safely in pens tell the stags that roam the wilds that living in the pen keeps them safe from wolves

    the problem is, while the wolf might take a few that live free and wild, the farmer castrates most of the ones in the pen while being able to shear or slaughter them at his convenience
    You want to live in the Cowboy Dystopia

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Do you not understand how the exchange of goods and people is facilitated between states, but that national boarders and international trade tends to be more restricted?
    are national boarders foreign exchange students living in my spare bedroom?



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