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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    That's such a bull**** hypothetical. It's just as likely that the conceal and carry person would've shot someone else by accident. Or that yet another conceal and carry person had theirs out and got mistaken for the shooter.

    Here's trained officers in New York shooting at a perp and instead hitting a woman with a walker and another woman was shot in her butt. Trained officers. I could just imagine what would happen in a tense shooter scenario like today and interjecting any joe schmoe who bought a conceal and carry license put in the mix.
    It's more like poorly trained officers. But I'm sure you can't comprehend that because depending on government is so much more convenient. It didn't help these poor citizens though did it?

    Another weak mind unable to understand the fact that people have a right to defend themselves. I'm sure you prefer to roll the dice and claim victim status if the situation arises. I say go for it!
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    That's such a bull**** hypothetical. It's just as likely that the conceal and carry person would've shot someone else by accident. Or that yet another conceal and carry person had theirs out and got mistaken for the shooter.

    Here's trained officers in New York shooting at a perp and instead hitting a woman with a walker and another woman was shot in her butt. Trained officers. I could just imagine what would happen in a tense shooter scenario like today and interjecting any joe schmoe who bought a conceal and carry license put in the mix.

    Actually CCWers have a better record than police when it comes to shooting the RIGHT person, rather than innocents and bystanders.

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    ...because you know the training of all CCW carriers in the nation as well as all law enforcement agencies?

    I'm just glad people like you are working hard for my freedom to be shot repeatedly while in a public place. It's priceless.
    Its more like you would be the one shot since you would be defenseless. When is the last time a concealed carry license holder shot someone by accident defending him or herself?
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    Re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    How about identifying paranoid people who listen to the voices in their heads and see to it that they are supervised so that they don't get a gun and go off shooting people? Wouldn't that be doing something about the problem?

    Or is mental health a taboo issue and too expensive to just provide willy nilly to people who are nutcases and can't pay for it?
    Here's a scenario for you. How about a guy isn't mentally ill but a doctor says he is? The doctor decides to put him in some sort of gov't run database saying he's unfit to carry a firearm. Another doctor then says he is mentally fit. Which one is the gov't going to believe? Or, better yet, how about a vet comes back from Afghan or whatever country we decide to invade next and says he is having issues. A doctor, just to be on the safe side (because he would be responsible now), decides to put him in the database. Or, worst of all, someone just gets their name put in the database due to clerical error. Have you ever tried to get the Federal gov't to give you something back once they've taken it? It takes a friggin year for veterans to get benefits from injuries incurred in war! It takes years to receive back taxes sometimes. And you want to entrust the Federal gov't to run this system competently? Come on man. I would be willing to wager this system, if this is what you are implying, would be far more infringing that helpful. If this isn't what you think should happen, I'd like to hear exactly what you believe could be done.
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    It's more like poorly trained officers. But I'm sure you can't comprehend that because depending on government is so much more convenient. It didn't help these poor citizens though did it?

    Another weak mind unable to understand the fact that people have a right to defend themselves. I'm sure you prefer to roll the dice and claim victim status if the situation arises. I say go for it!
    Standard template claptrap. Didn't even address what I said for the most part. Just personal attacks. Nice content!
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Seems like this dude was a non criminal, as we're the last umpteenth mass shooters.
    As reported tonight on the news, the number of people killed in these types of events equals out to like .01% of murders, so I think we have bigger problems...It is only the sensational politicizing of events like this by people like you that is the problem.
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Standard template claptrap. Didn't even address what I said for the most part. Just personal attacks. Nice content!
    as usual. No comprende?
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    Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    As reported tonight on the news, the number of people killed in these types of events equals out to like .01% of murders, so I think we have bigger problems...It is only the sensational politicizing of events like this by people like you that is the problem.
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    Re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    No, you didn't summarize my post in one sentence, you gave an answer to my questions. A defeatist's answer.

    It also is a wrong answer. Forgive my bluntness, but it is.

    We can do something about this. We just have to muster more courage than it takes to kill one thousand Nazi Zombies on a television screen to do it...
    Oh, it's just courage? Well, my idealist friend, what person or group of people do you believe will be the one(s) to suddenly inspire parents to push away those evil first person shooters, those politicians to deal in reality instead of fear mongering, for all state governments to suddenly loosen gun laws, for all those people that don't believe in guns to suddenly become Ted Nugent clones and pick up their .45's and defend everyone else? Who will be this messiah of safety and sanity you speak of? What group will step up and give us this courage? It's time to deal in reality brother. No one is the answer to those questions.
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    An expert with a lean "libertarian Right"? Can you not see the vested interest, that makes your 'expertize' questionable to say the least...

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    perhaps, my lean is to freedom meaning I won't find convincing even arguments that can prove we can gain more safety by decreasing freedom. However, the anti gun scum in office has not come close to even proving their schemes make us safer. I also tend to me completely truthful when it comes to facts

    such as noting that the stuff scumbags call "assault weapons" are rarely used in crime (which really doesn't matter-criminal misuse does not proffer a strong argument against prohibiting lawful ownership or use)

    Since most anti gunners' positions are based on dishonesty (pretending crime control rather than harassing lawful ownership is their motivation), the rest of their arguments tend to be easily destroyed.



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