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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Paranoia + Insomnia + Hearing Voices.

    The Trifecta for a shooter.

    DC gunman was suffering host of mental issues prior to shooting, report says | Fox News
    No doubt, and if he'd only have been white, and a tea partier, then there would non stop meetings at MSNBC on speaker phone with the WH over how to outright hammer this....And I am sure that the SPLC would issue a new warning on how the tea party was a terror organization.
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    and now, on reflection, the rational thing to do would be to determine just how someone who was paranoid and hearing voices managed to get on the naval base with a firearm, and then take measures to see that it doesn't happen again.

    But, we're talking about the reaction of the government and the public, where rationality seems to have little bearing on what is actually done.
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No doubt, and if he'd only have been white, and a tea partier, then there would non stop meetings at MSNBC on speaker phone with the WH over how to outright hammer this....And I am sure that the SPLC would issue a new warning on how the tea party was a terror organization.
    Norice how the Libbos went silent after they found out he's black?
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then you would lose...

    "The number cited for rifles was somewhat less precise. While itís true that the FBI counted 323 murders by rifles, the agency also counted 1,587 murders by an undetermined type of firearm and 97 by "other guns." If gun usage in these two categories followed the same pattern as other gun homicides, that would add another 75 or so murders by rifle, making an estimate for the number of rifle murders about 400, rather than 323.

    Still, the larger point holds: Murders by knives, blunt objects and body parts each individually outweighed those committed using a rifle."

    PolitiFact | Facebook post says more people were murdered with knives, body parts or blunt objects than with rifles
    Are you sure?

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    "you guys"? who is "you guys"? Americans? Constitutionalists? Gun owners? I fail to see how you come to the conclusion that a law abiding gun owner is at fault here.
    Whomever so fearlessly fights for their right to bare weapons is also enabling a reality to be killed by guns more probable. That is "you guys."
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Whomever so fearlessly fights for their right to bare weapons is also enabling a reality to be killed by guns more probable. That is "you guys."
    First, you won't likely be successful at evidencing such "probabilities" in a robust way. But worse, please review your reasoning on this. One can take your same "reasoning" and apply it to the ownership of swimming pools. Or automobiles. If you want to eliminate probability of death, you'd never have children and the species would die out. Your reasoning is shown to be absurd. I use to argue your same point until I paid attention to the arguments, just so you know.

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I have a question, Did Aaron Alexis break the law Yesterday?
    Since he did, why does anyone think he would care about any of the other laws
    he may have broken.
    Yes. Why even have laws? Its so silly. It just makes people criminals.

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    It's now "you guys" vs. "libbos" on gun control.

    Gun control is not the answer to this sort of thing, and I think we know that, but, have at it. How should we score the contest?
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No I'm not. Tougher gun laws do not restrict anyone from purchasing a weapon. It would only make the black market more robust and create more problems. Just like the war on drugs.
    No question. If we had vending machines with AR-15 all over the street so you could just get one at will, I'm sure it would have no impact upon sales.

    Thats why we have morphine and cocaine sold over the counter - those silly controlled substance laws dont work at all.

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Whomever so fearlessly fights for their right to bare weapons is also enabling a reality to be killed by guns more probable. That is "you guys."
    So you care little for rights then, noted.
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