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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is it just me, or is there a lot more (D)'s than (R)'s in there?
    Nope, you're right. And all of them, whether D or R, would not be denied access to such a facility. So when the question is asked about how a felon would get access, the easy answer is that in some cases we elect them. For that matter, former Senator Jim Webb was caught carrying a revolver into the Senate - I was busted on that once in that his aide was the one actually carrying it for him - soooo, Bwana has a gun bearer.....

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Really? Not even a little bit close to that?
    No, not even a little bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    No, not even a little bit
    OK, if you say so.

    Let's redact all of the comments about Muslims and terrorists, then.
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Really? Not even a little bit close to that?
    I had a range of choices. Noticed I also stated time will tell who the shooter(s) are? Yep. with the first little bit of information that was available we should not consider it was some extremist as a possibility. Especially after AQ talking head spouted off that is what should happen to America.

    Where in my statement did I say that was the only choice or that I believe it was 100% an extremist.
    So is it your stance that when we have mass shootings we should not consider the possibility of it being a terrorist attack at the beginning?

    So does it make me a bad person to even think that it was in the realm of possibilities? If you didn't think it, then maybe your mind is to closed.

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Really? Not even a little bit close to that?

    Didn't say it was a Muslim shooter. Thought about it though.

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    1) I find it amazing I'm continuously contending with knee jerk reactions from gun advocates

    2) Most of your points do little to address mine (might as well add a bullet point for tea in china)

    3)The level of gun crime in japan is ridiculously low. So I find it odd that you're asserting there is some gun crime issue there (there were 11 gun related homicides in 2008)
    You know, Doc, this is not Japan. I checked. It isn't. I understand the correlations, but I just watched a couple of guys attempting to rob a store in the UK with a knife. The human predilection for violence is not limited by means but by intent.

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I had a range of choices. Noticed I also stated time will tell who the shooter(s) are? Yep. with the first little bit of information that was available we should not consider it was some extremist as a possibility. Especially after AQ talking head spouted off that is what should happen to America.

    Where in my statement did I say that was the only choice or that I believe it was 100% an extremist.
    So is it your stance that when we have mass shootings we should not consider the possibility of it being a terrorist attack at the beginning?

    So does it make me a bad person to even think that it was in the realm of possibilities? If you didn't think it, then maybe your mind is to closed.
    I didn't say that you were a bad person, or that it was unreasonable to think that the shooter might be a Muslim extremist.

    Only that terrorism was one of the possibilities being discussed.
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    1) I find it amazing I'm continuously contending with knee jerk reactions from gun advocates

    2) Most of your points do little to address mine (might as well add a bullet point for tea in china)

    3)The level of gun crime in japan is ridiculously low. So I find it odd that you're asserting there is some gun crime issue there (there were 11 gun related homicides in 2008)
    Addressing your comments is a 'kneejerk' reaction. I get it. Your kind of foolishness only stands on its own if it is COMPLETELY unchallenged. I certianly understand why you want it to remain that way.

    My points very directly addressed your Japanese connection or more importantly...the COMPLETE lack of valid connection. It DID however COMPLETELY point to the FACT...gangs...violent criminals..even on Japan where gun ownership carries massive fines and gun use can carry a life sentence...GANGS manage to get and use guns.

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    OK, if you say so.

    Let's redact all of the comments about Muslims and terrorists, then.
    people can make comments about Muslims and terrorists, and even about their first thought about this involving a Muslim, and it would still not be anything akin to what you suggest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    You know, Doc, this is not Japan. I checked.
    who said it was? I was responding to the comment about strict gun control inevitably leading to a scenario akin to what mexico is experiences. Secondly, I think the control issue here would go more along the lines of a japan than a mexico, for obvious reasons.

    but I just watched a couple of guys attempting to rob a store in the UK with a knife. The human predilection for violence is not limited by means but by intent.
    I would rather deal with a guy wielding a knife than a gun, in most scenarios.

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