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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Yes but you guys fight for the freedom to hold guns that ultimately kill you. You fight to the death in order to be killed . See statement above.
    "you guys"? who is "you guys"? Americans? Constitutionalists? Gun owners? I fail to see how you come to the conclusion that a law abiding gun owner is at fault here.
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    That must be why there is so little gun violence in Mexico, right?
    My girlfirend just researched what it takes to get a gun in Mexico.

    You have to have a good reason to want a gun.

    Living in a dangerous area and getting shot at was denied as a reason to want a gun.

    It is crazy here.

    When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    I see the conversation has morphed from "this guy must have been a Muslim terrorist, but the MSM will never admit it" to "we need more/fewer guns".

    I'd be willing to bet, based on the few facts that we have, that the shooter was a mental case who should never have had any guns, or been allowed to walk free, that he is not a Muslim, and that neither terrorism nor gun control has a thing to do with this incident.

    Any takers?
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I see the conversation has morphed from "this guy must have been a Muslim terrorist, but the MSM will never admit it" to "we need more/fewer guns".

    I'd be willing to bet, based on the few facts that we have, that the shooter was a mental case who should never have had any guns, or been allowed to walk free, that he is not a Muslim, and that neither terrorism nor gun control has a thing to do with this incident.

    Any takers?

    I am just waiting for the answer as to how somebody with felonies on their criminal record could get security clearance to enter this facitilty.

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    That must be why there is so little gun violence in Mexico, right?
    I think you're confused, mate. What I wrote has nothing to do with gun violence in mexico. What it does is highlight the fact that removing someone's ability to legally buy a gun prevents them buying a gun via legal channels. Thus limiting their ability to buy guns.

    For some reason you're interpreting that as "can't buy guns"

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I am just waiting for the answer as to how somebody with felonies on their criminal record could get security clearance to enter this facitilty.
    Agreed. Particularly this individual, who was apparently getting psychiatric treatment from the VA for, among other things, the voices in his head.
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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I think you're confused, mate. What I wrote has nothing to do with gun violence in mexico. What it does is highlight the fact that removing someone's ability to legally buy a gun prevents them buying a gun via legal channels. Thus limiting their ability to buy guns.

    For some reason you're interpreting that as "can't buy guns"
    Mexico has much stricter gun laws so there should be much less gun violence there according to your reasoning.

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    My girlfirend just researched what it takes to get a gun in Mexico.

    You have to have a good reason to want a gun.

    Living in a dangerous area and getting shot at was denied as a reason to want a gun.

    It is crazy here.

    When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
    mexico's gun problems seem more a byproduct of a weak govt and state. For example, Japan has some of the strictest gun laws in the world and hardly no gun crime. But they have a very strong state and functional govt

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I am just waiting for the answer as to how somebody with felonies on their criminal record could get security clearance to enter this facitilty.
    Well, there's this: How many US senators and congressmen are convicted felons

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    re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    Mexico has much stricter gun laws so there should be much less gun violence there according to your reasoning.
    actually no my reasoning does not lead to that. My reasoning is that limiting options one can use to buy guns limits one's options to buy guns...

    Secondly, the reason the cartels set up shop in mexico was due to the fact that it's a weak and dysfunctional state. The US, for all it's problems, does not face anything near to what mexico does in this arena, and there is little to suggest similar restrictions would have such effects here (though I don't support such restrictions, anyway)
    Last edited by Dr. Chuckles; 09-17-13 at 11:54 AM.

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