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    Re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard

    Report of at least four dead, 12 shot and more than one shooter. Report that one shooter has been "neutralized"
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    Re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Raise your hand if when you heard the news the first thing you thought was Muslim. Not saying it is, but that was my first thought.

    A fine example of the success the right wing media has had in forming prejudices in American minds. It may well be Islamic radicals but the mere fact that it was your first thought is just one more instance of irrational hatred.

    Anyone remember when their first thought upon hearing of such an instance would have concerned a worker "going postal"?
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    If I were the shooter, and especially if I were injured, as a last-ditch attempt to escape, I would make my way to a rooftop and wave for helicopter evacuation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    A fine example of the success the right wing media has had in forming prejudices in American minds. It may well be Islamic radicals but the mere fact that it was your first thought is just one more instance of irrational hatred.

    Anyone remember when their first thought upon hearing of such an instance would have concerned a worker "going postal"?
    I would have thought going postal if the shooting was at a post office. It's in a Navy yard. I hope Gibbs wasn't shot.

    Don't blame the right wing media or any media. Blame the shooter on an Army base who yelled about Allah as he shot soldiers. Are you saying that they didn't report that shooting on the Daily Worker? If they didn't, you should drop your subscription.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    A fine example of the success the right wing media has had in forming prejudices in American minds. It may well be Islamic radicals but the mere fact that it was your first thought is just one more instance of irrational hatred.
    I'm not sure what the issue is with thinking it was an islamic radical. They are a movement that we are at war with on a number of fronts and they tend to employ such tactics.

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    Re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    A fine example of the success the right wing media has had in forming prejudices in American minds. It may well be Islamic radicals but the mere fact that it was your first thought is just one more instance of irrational hatred.

    Anyone remember when their first thought upon hearing of such an instance would have concerned a worker "going postal"?
    We've come a long way from "going postal" days. Today, everyone's first thought, most especially on a military base, is that it's some whacko shooter making a whacko "statement" to the world.

    I can't imagine why anyone would criticize this particular jump to conclusion. We jump to what we think are logical conclusions all the time when a story is breaking.
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    Re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    A fine example of the success the right wing media has had in forming prejudices in American minds. It may well be Islamic radicals but the mere fact that it was your first thought is just one more instance of irrational hatred.

    Anyone remember when their first thought upon hearing of such an instance would have concerned a worker "going postal"?
    I have just as much disdain for hate mongering media as you do, but it was the first thing which popped into my mind as well. This is a place with ties to the government, and the shooting is coming on the heels of a message from the Al-Qaeda promoting "lone wolf" attacks on US soil.

    It's not an unreasonable conclusion to jump to.

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    Active gunmen in US navy Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Raise your hand if when you heard the news the first thing you thought was Muslim. Not saying it is, but that was my first thought.
    No Muslim shooters in the US yet, but one.

    Most are American white boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I have just as much disdain for hate mongering media as you do, but it was the first thing which popped into my mind as well. This is a place with ties to the government, and the shooting is coming on the heels of a message from the Al-Qaeda promoting "lone wolf" attacks on US soil.

    It's not an unreasonable conclusion to jump to.
    you beat me to it. Just read through the thread.

    My thoughts, ranged from disgruntal employee(s), to lone wolf extremists. Time will tell who the shooter(s) are.

    or for the conspiracy minded folks, maybe its a false flag operation by the govt to continue to control the public opinion on the war with terrorists for big oil and take our gun rights away.

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    Re: Active gunmen in US navy Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    you beat me to it. Just read through the thread.

    My thoughts, ranged from disgruntal employee(s), to lone wolf extremists. Time will tell who the shooter(s) are.

    or for the conspiracy minded folks, maybe its a false flag operation by the govt to continue to control the public opinion on the war with terrorists for big oil and take our gun rights away.

    I heard it was Bashir Assad himself! He was heard screaming that he didn't care what Putin told him to do, he wasn't going out without a fight!
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