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Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69, 700]

sure, if they are 21, and are duly licensed. or if they are varsity shooters who have target weapons. I was an All American at Yale and since I had a single room, the Campus cops had no problem with me sometimes having my Perazzi Mirage in my room

normally it was at the police station but I would get it-walk through campus to the team room where we'd catch a bus to the range. On days that we had two day tournaments I'd usually take it to my room for cleaning. I was a celebrity among the cops since I was a world class shooter. I never threatened anyone with a gun. at all times I was over 18 (the legal age to buy a shotgun in CT at the time)

my father was at yale right after the war and was a naval reserve officer. he often had "shore patrol" after classes and on those days he was in uniform with his sidearm. He never shot anyone either. and there were more than a few men (1947-48) who were in the same situation he was.

I can tell you that I would feel so much less safe that I have no words to describe it.

This news article came out three hours ago:
Countries With High Gun Ownership Have More Firearms Deaths : Shots - Health News : NPR

Here is an interesting graph:
Chart: The U.S. has far more gun-related killings than any other developed country


Another comparison:
US firearm-related homicide deaths: 11,078
United Kingdom firearm-related homicide deaths: 38

Facts are stubborn things as your hero Reagan said

I think it is selfish of you to let 11,000 people die per year so you can play with your toys.
 
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Do you think that students should be allowed to have guns on my college campus?
As opposed to being good little sheep and victims waiting for another Cho and another VaTech incident???

If those students were law abiding citizens you would have nothing to fear. If they weren't, your laws are useless and without someone to bail you out you are already screwed.
 
I can tell you that I would feel so much less safe that I have no words to describe it.

This news article came out three hours ago:
Countries With High Gun Ownership Have More Firearms Deaths : Shots - Health News : NPR

Here is an interesting graph:
Chart: The U.S. has far more gun-related killings than any other developed country


Another comparison:
US firearm-related homicide deaths: 11,078
United Kingdom firearm-related homicide deaths: 38
Facts are stubborn things as your hero Reagan said

I am not responsible for your irrational feelings of timidity. Indeed, several studies have indicated that gun hate is often evidenced by those who are terrified to make self defense a personal responsibility or a fear of accepting the risks of such a duty. So the fearful attempt to ban guns so they won't be reminded of their own failings. Your stupid reference to England has been vaporized so many times here we laugh when a new poster tries to use that argument

England's rate of violence has increased as it has soiled its collective panties over gun ownership while we have bought more and more firearms here in the USA and our rate of violent crime has gone down

Right after Columbine, NR did a study based on FBI and Interpol crime reports and found that white Americans have had a lower rate of gun violence than those of whites living in England, Scotland and most of Continental Europe. Factor out mope on mope killings and inner city drug shootings, and the USA is rather safe when it comes to guns. Most of the random killings take place in GUN FREE ZONES
 
How do you know gun laws impacted his ability to purchase an AR15?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/18/u...from-buying-rifle-officials-say.html?hp&_r=1&

And..we have already discussed Japan and clearly demonstrated that in Japan as in the US, those criminals invested in getting illegal weapons, do.

Yes, we did indeed discuss japan, and you lost your **** when I pointed to the fact that gun crime was virtually non existent. And though ***you claimed*** guns were still easy to get by criminals, despite the absence of any significant gun crime, you never actually substantiated that.
 
we have bought more and more firearms here in the USA and our rate of violent crime has gone downS

US firearm-related homicide deaths: 11,078
United Kingdom firearm-related homicide deaths: 38
 
As opposed to being good little sheep and victims waiting for another Cho and another VaTech incident???

If those students were law abiding citizens you would have nothing to fear. If they weren't, your laws are useless and without someone to bail you out you are already screwed.


Sheep that live safely in pens tell the stags that roam the wilds that living in the pen keeps them safe from wolves

the problem is, while the wolf might take a few that live free and wild, the farmer castrates most of the ones in the pen while being able to shear or slaughter them at his convenience
 
US firearm-related homicide deaths: 11,078
United Kingdom firearm-related homicide deaths: 38

you don't read very well do you. violent CRIME


and even if it could be proven that gun violence would go down with the sort of laws that you want, I reject it. Freedom is not the same as being completely safe.
 
Really? Gun laws restrict gun availability? Hows that working in Chicago? And for the record...you are cool with ARs...its just fully auto machine guns you are concerned about now? :lamo

Do you not understand how the exchange of goods and people is facilitated between states, but that national boarders and international trade tends to be more restricted?
 
Sheep that live safely in pens tell the stags that roam the wilds that living in the pen keeps them safe from wolves

the problem is, while the wolf might take a few that live free and wild, the farmer castrates most of the ones in the pen while being able to shear or slaughter them at his convenience

You want to live in the Cowboy Dystopia
 
Do you not understand how the exchange of goods and people is facilitated between states, but that national boarders and international trade tends to be more restricted?

are national boarders foreign exchange students living in my spare bedroom?
 
This is the Cowboy Dystopia

that's stupid. should I note that your argument is sheep appeal? why are you afraid of honest people owning weapons? the only people who should be afraid of good citizens possessing arms are those who engage in activities that would justify a good man or woman shooting them
 
Wait...what? You believe it didnt really happen...that it was all just a hoax?

I'm just saying that since the navy and government are 100% in control of this story I am extremely skeptical. That would be the major advantage of planning a false flag attack within a service base.
 
Boarder-someone who BOARDS

Border-the boundary between states, nations or fabric

Oh, well thank you for the correction. For a minute I thought you had something of substance to contribute, so you will need to excuse my confusion
 
Oh, well thank you for the correction. For a minute I thought you had something of substance to contribute, so you will need to excuse my confusion

I never made that assumption about the posts you have made on gun issues. The fact is gun fear is irrational and the solutions based on irrational foundations tend to be both silly and worthless
 
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Really? Gun laws restrict gun availability? Hows that working in Chicago? And for the record...you are cool with ARs...its just fully auto machine guns you are concerned about now? :lamo

Diversion, diversion, diversion.

Read this again.
GUN LAWS RESTRICT THE AVAILABILITY OF GUNS.

Now reflect upon that.
 
that's stupid. should I note that your argument is sheep appeal? why are you afraid of honest people owning weapons? the only people who should be afraid of good citizens possessing arms are those who engage in activities that would justify a good man or woman shooting them

Tell me why you think there are 11,000 firearm homicides in the US and 30 in the UK? I don't want you to dance around this like you have been. Give me your explanation. In my opinion, this single fact demolishes your ideology.
 
Tell me why you think there are 11,000 firearm homicides in the US and 30 in the UK? I don't want you to dance around this like you have been. Give me your explanation. In my opinion, this single fact demolishes your ideology.

Well tell me why England had almost no gun violence BEFORE England started banning firearms or restricting their ownership.

tell me why our rate of gun crime has DECREASED even though millions upon millions of new guns are being bought while ENGLAND's RATE OF VIOLENT CRIME has increased while they not only banned all handguns but are now banning KNIVES
 
Diversion, diversion, diversion.

Read this again.
GUN LAWS RESTRICT THE AVAILABILITY OF GUNS.

Now reflect upon that.

sure

Guns in the hands of criminals, kamikazes and suicide by cop bezerkers facilitate DEATH AND CRIME

guns in the hands of honest people DETER CRIME and stop CRIMINALS

GUN LAWS ONLY RESTRICT THE LATTER (which of course is what YOU want)
 
Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69]

Do you not understand how the exchange of goods and people is facilitated between states, but that national boarders and international trade tends to be more restricted?
As has been clearly demonstrated on numerous occasions, those national borders are completely ineffective when criminals have the desire and intent to transport goods.
 
Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69]

Tell me why you think there are 11,000 firearm homicides in the US and 30 in the UK? I don't want you to dance around this like you have been. Give me your explanation. In my opinion, this single fact demolishes your ideology.
what is the difference in the gangs and drug trade between the UK and US? Where do you suppose the VAST majority of those 11,000 deaths are occurring in the US?
 
I never made that assumption about the posts you have made on gun issues.


Well, as an unapologetic ideologue, who seems incapable of debate, I wouldn't expect you to

The fact is gun fear is irrational and the solutions based on irrational foundations tend to be both silly and worthless

Yeah? Well, relying on silly slogans and attempting to shout down anyone that you perceive as a threat isn't exactly something of value here.
 
Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69]

Diversion, diversion, diversion.

Read this again.
GUN LAWS RESTRICT THE AVAILABILITY OF GUNS.

Now reflect upon that.
your little slice of heaven disproves that statement.
 
Active gunmen in US navy Yard [W:69]

your little slice of heaven disproves that statement.

Not at all. Thats for a different thread though.

But I see you are unable to process basic facts, so I dont think I'll bother to continue here. Maybe you'll feel better now that one less person is talking about taking away your toys...errr.. FREEDOMS.
 
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