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    Re: California school district hires firm to monitor students' social media

    not a duty of government

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    Re: California school district hires firm to monitor students' social media

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    I'm not sure that entirely follows. Social media is, more or less by definition, a public forum. If you're posting anything on FB or whatever you know - unless you're spectacularly stupid - that pretty much anyone who wants to see it can see it. Even if you've got privacy settings turned way up, anyone on your friends list can re-post or otherwise disseminate whatever it is that you've posted. That's a pretty far cry from the sorts of tracking of private data flows (e.g. search engine usage, shopping history, etc) that the government has been involved with for the last several years.

    Put another way, it seems like these schools are starting to monitor what kids put out into the public for consumption, rather than attempting to invade their private lives in some way.
    It is debatable whether the online medium is as public as a public forum should be. People are private individuals unless you are public individual (newsperson, politician, generally people who have a great impact on the public affairs of the country). So therefore, everything you post you do it in that quality, as a private individual regardless whether it's in a public medium or not. SO it's really an open debate if it's public information that can be used on you or not.

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    Are they monitoring the computers at the school, or are they forcing the children to cough up their passwords etc.? I think there's a difference.
    No. They are just monitoring what they are saying on the social media and putting it in their files.

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    Re: California school district hires firm to monitor students' social media

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    It is debatable whether the online medium is as public as a public forum should be. People are private individuals unless you are public individual (newsperson, politician, generally people who have a great impact on the public affairs of the country). So therefore, everything you post you do it in that quality, as a private individual regardless whether it's in a public medium or not. SO it's really an open debate if it's public information that can be used on you or not.
    It's not really debatable whether online social media are public fora.

    It sounds to me like you're confusing two distinct issues. Yes, public figures do get treated differently by the media, and have different standards applied regarding defamation cases, but that has really very little to do with whether or not a given piece of information is public or private. The fact is, if a 16 year old posts a photo with a caption to FB, the only meaningful difference between doing so and printing out a physical photo with a caption and posting it on the wall of his or her high school (which would obviously be putting it out into the public for consumption by his social environment; teachers included) is that the FB photo is far more likely to be seen by numerous people, and almost infinitely more likely to be copied and disseminated. For all intents and purposes anything posted on FB (and especially Twitter) is something that has been voluntarily given over to the public. Again, this is a far cry from having a government agent or organization sift through legitimately private and anonymous information (e.g. phone records, search engine history, etc). Complaining about strangers checking out your FB account is about as ridiculous as me complaining that a non DP member is reading this post.

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    Re: California school district hires firm to monitor students' social media

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    California district hires firm to monitor students' social media - CNN.com






    Read the rest of the article in the link.

    So I don't think this is a good idea. I mean, the only way I see this becoming a good idea is if it teaches kids that the internet is no joke and that they shouldn't post personal information online for everyone to see. And hence, the kids would delete or not make FB accounts or myspace or what naught, or if they do, get educated on not behaving in a way that would be damaging for them in the future.

    But even so. You're going to have a lot of kids growing up with the idea that it's FINE for someone, a state institution, to monitor them. It's fine to have surveillance. It's the way things should be. So when these kids have to go and vote for the next congressmen and president and what naught, the fact that there were privacy scandals and surveillance laws passed won't be such a big deal if it will be a big deal at all.
    I completely disagree with that use of taxpayer money. We're supposed to be spending that money on education kids; not spying on them.
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    Re: California school district hires firm to monitor students' social media

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Meh, the school district is only doing what the parents should be doing... monitoring what kids do and say in a public place, where anyone can see it. If more parents insisted on monitoring their kids' social media, then fewer parents would be stunned to find their bullied, depressed, or drug/alcohol addicted kids hanging in their closets.
    Exactly. That was my first thought. Why does the school feel it has to do the parents' job? Could it be because the parents are NOT doing their job? Don't get me wrong, I don't like this level of government intrusion one bit, but when parents aren't stepping up to the plate, someone else has to. And that someone else, unfortunately, is always the government.
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