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    Re: Lois Lerner's Own Words Emails undercut the official IRS story on political targe

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    What's clear to me is that the political groups sought 501 c4 rather than 527 IRS status because they don't want their donors known.
    do you blame them you seen what happened when Romneys donors was made public they where attacked by Obamas henchman

    I want you to explain how Obama for America the Obama campaign organization. after the election changed their name to Organizing for Action and received the 501c4 status within months? And don't you dare try to say Organizing for Action is not political hell they are using the Obama campaign symbol has his picture on the first page of their web site and are doing nothing but promoting Obamas agenda
    Barack Obama
    will you look at that even there web address has Obamas name in it

    so you need to stop with your foolish BS right now because no one is believing your crap
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    Re: Lois Lerner's Own Words Emails undercut the official IRS story on political targe

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    What's clear to me is that the political groups sought 501 c4 rather than 527 IRS status because they don't want their donors known.
    And nothing more than that, I know.

    It's such a damned shame that this once great country, which once led the world in almost every category, has been reduced to this. It's hardly even worth debating anymore.

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    Re: Lois Lerner's Own Words Emails undercut the official IRS story on political targe

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    do you blame them you seen what happened when Romneys donors was made public they where attacked by Obamas henchman

    I want you to explain how Obama for America the Obama campaign organization. after the election changed their name to Organizing for Action and received the 501c4 status within months? And don't you dare try to say Organizing for Action is not political hell they are using the Obama campaign symbol has his picture on the first page of their web site and are doing nothing but promoting Obamas agenda
    Barack Obamawill you look at that even there web address has Obamas name in it
    so you need to stop your foolish BS right now no one is believing your crap

    But I think he really believes it and there are millions more like him. How can any country survive this sort of deliberate devotion and blindness? His response is what you might expect in North Korea.

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    Re: Lois Lerner's Own Words Emails undercut the official IRS story on political targe

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Another socialist who won't read anything that may interfere with deeply held beliefs.

    But is there any other kind?
    Another fascist who ignores what is actually being said by people who disagree with him.

    However, is there any other kind?
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    Re: Lois Lerner's Own Words Emails undercut the official IRS story on political targe

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But I think he really believes it and there are millions more like him. How can any country survive this sort of deliberate devotion and blindness? His response is what you might expect in North Korea.
    because liberalism is a cult they are no better then the idiots that followed Jim Jones to their death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Another fascist who ignores what is actually being said by people who disagree with him.

    However, is there any other kind?
    you will be one of the first in line when Obama tells you to drink the Kool Aid wont you

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    Re: Lois Lerner's Own Words Emails undercut the official IRS story on political targe

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Another fascist who ignores what is actually being said by people who disagree with him.

    However, is there any other kind?
    The left has become bereft of originality or any meaningful critical thought. They are programmed to defend leftist policies no matter the consequences, or how their credibility might suffer. No pride remains.

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    Re: Lois Lerner's Own Words Emails undercut the official IRS story on political targe

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Another fascist who ignores what is actually being said by people who disagree with him.

    However, is there any other kind?
    Well yes. Those government employees who plead the 5th because they don't want the world to know how corrupt their political handlers are. Which of course might help prevent criminal conspiracy charges from being filed against them and their political handlers.
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    Re: Lois Lerner's Own Words Emails undercut the official IRS story on political targe

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    do you blame them you seen what happened when Romneys donors was made public they where attacked by Obamas henchman

    I want you to explain how Obama for America the Obama campaign organization. after the election changed their name to Organizing for Action and received the 501c4 status within months? And don't you dare try to say Organizing for Action is not political hell they are using the Obama campaign symbol has his picture on the first page of their web site and are doing nothing but promoting Obamas agenda
    Barack Obama
    will you look at that even there web address has Obamas name in it

    so you need to stop with your foolish BS right now because no one is believing your crap
    I am not going to try to justify what Obama did with his organization because I don't know the rules or exactly what his organization does. It's very possible his organization should not have gotten the non profit status, but I don't know.

    Here's my feling on the subject:

    1. I don't believe the IRS should be in the business of determining whether and organization is political or not. Either they are or they arn't.

    2. Donors to political campaigns should not be able to do it anonymously.


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    Re: Lois Lerner's Own Words Emails undercut the official IRS story on political targe

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I am not going to try to justify what Obama did with his organization because I don't know the rules or exactly what his organization does. It's very possible his organization should not have gotten the non profit status, but I don't know.

    Here's my feling on the subject:

    1. I don't believe the IRS should be in the business of determining whether and organization is political or not. Either they are or they arn't.
    You're right but that's what the IRS did do. The question is, how can you right this wrong so that so that all Americans have an equal say? Any prejudice against others now might one day be a prejudice against you.

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    Re: Lois Lerner's Own Words Emails undercut the official IRS story on political targe

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I am not going to try to justify what Obama did with his organization because I don't know the rules or exactly what his organization does. It's very possible his organization should not have gotten the non profit status, but I don't know.

    Here's my feling on the subject:

    1. I don't believe the IRS should be in the business of determining whether and organization is political or not. Either they are or they arn't.

    2. Donors to political campaigns should not be able to do it anonymously.
    why not what keeps the winner of the election from using his power to punish who donated to his opponent to keep them or others from doing the same in the future

    like this

    Wealthy businessman Frank VanderSloot, a major Mitt Romney super PAC donor who was subjected to three federal agency audits after being slimed by the Obama campaign, says he isn’t the only one of his peers who was audited after donating to Romney.

    VanderSloot, who was also national co-chair of the Romney campaign’s finance committee, was described in an April 2012 Obama campaign Web posting as one of eight “wealthy individuals with less-than-reputable records.”

    Shortly after the post appeared, VanderSloot was subjected to two Internal Revenue Service audits — one focusing on his personal finances, the other related to his business interests — and a Labor Department audit of one of his businesses. When asked about whether any of the other seven donors who appeared on the list were audited as well, VanderSloot spoke cautiously, but did say he “wasn’t the only one.

    Read more: Frank VanderSloot: 'I

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