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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Climate model=weather girl?

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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Boy did you get it wrong.

    Cook et al examined 11,944 abstracts from the peer-reviewed scientific literature from 19912011 that matched the topics 'global climate change' or 'global warming'. They found that, while 66.4% of them expressed no position on anthropogenic global warming (AGW), of those that did, 97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming. They also invited authors to rate their own papers and found that, while only 35.5% rated their paper as expressing no position on AGW, 97.2% of the rest endorsed the consensus. In both cases the percentage of endorsements among papers expressing a position was marginally increasing over time. They concluded that the number of papers actually rejecting the consensus on AGW is a vanishingly small proportion of the published research.[21]


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    Your mind on denialism.
    I said,
    About 36% of Scientist writing papers about Climate change, endorse AGW.
    Cook search criteria 'global climate change' or 'global warming' indeed found many of the papers
    related to climate change, and of those 36% endorsed AGW.
    How and where was I wrong?
    I my own opinion, Cooks first search did not yield the result he was looking for,
    so he choose to further parse the data until he got a significant figure.

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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I said,

    Cook search criteria 'global climate change' or 'global warming' indeed found many of the papers
    related to climate change, and of those 36% endorsed AGW.
    How and where was I wrong?
    I my own opinion, Cooks first search did not yield the result he was looking for,
    so he choose to further parse the data until he got a significant figure.
    His paper was right on target with 2 other peer-reviewed papers that came to the same bloody conclusion. It's like thinking an animated GIF will yield a different result if you look at it long enough.
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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    His paper was right on target with 2 other peer-reviewed papers that came to the same bloody conclusion. It's like thinking an animated GIF will yield a different result if you look at it long enough.
    I deal in numbers, and stand by my statement.
    About 36% of Scientist writing papers about Climate change, endorse AGW.
    Based on Cook's data.
    He searched for 'global climate change' or 'global warming' and of the papers he found only
    a little less than 36% endorsed AGW.

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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Not when the warming seen over the last 100 years is only 0.7C. When the error is larger than the observation you can't trust the observation.
    I guess, but even 100 years of weather observation doesn't tell us a whole lot about climate. Climate is usually more of a long-term thing.


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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    So much fail in this thread. I see the same silly old arguments the right always trot out. The same garbage that has been debunked over and over and over. This "weak" warming trend has been explained and accounted for, this has all been gone over years ago but nobody here has taken a look, nobody has researched why. Instead we get the same old nonsense spewed from the scientifically illiterate who can barely construct a coherent sentence nonetheless understand complex integrated sciences.

    This is part of why America is falling apart, ignorance. Most people are unable to correctly understand the issues and become advocates of positions that are not beneficial to them or "the people" at large.

    I certainly hope we can techno-fix our way out of this mess because I can't imagine we're going to curb carbon emission with the current state of public awareness.

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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Just curious, if it is as the proponents of AGW say it is, I am wondering what they think the scientists say is the fix? Or can we even reverse it at all through our actions?
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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    climate models are create and modified given real observations, and modifications to the model is made when real observations don't line up with the earlier models.

    Whenever the models don't jive, new parameters are added and old weights change. What this means is that future projections from models will be wrong until all parameters are discovered. Should probably take about 1,000 years to find all the problems.

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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    It has not stopped. We are getting hotter all of the time.
    That's right, baby!

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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I guess, but even 100 years of weather observation doesn't tell us a whole lot about climate. Climate is usually more of a long-term thing.


    Which is why all the alarm over the warming of the last 100 years is stupid.

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