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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    It has indeed been cooler than average in the Arctic for most of the summer. I'm not sure that explains the ice, though, since the ice extent has more to do with the winds there.
    And precipitation. But that's not the point. The point is that a single years worth of data is completely useless for establishing a climate trend.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Note: The title of the actual article.

    compared to Fox's headline

    The use of the adjective "wildly" might be a bit much, but the title and headline say basically the same thing.
    http://www.see.ed.ac.uk/~shs/Climate...20estimate.pdf
    Yeah it's a bit much. Also called a distortion.

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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    so are you deny the existence of the ice age or the mini ice age that ended about 200 years ago?
    God I love how deniers can't think clearly - and have to demonstrate it.

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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    they predicted that the earth temp would be 2 degrees hotter then when they made that perdition it only risen by .7 degrees and it has stopped
    Much stuff up much?

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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    In the normal course of things, Humanity can survive the warming we are likely to see.
    I am not so sure that would be a safe statement for the next ice age.
    80 to 90% of the last 800,000 years have been spent in an ICE age, I think it is a
    high probability it will return.
    Kind of narrow-minded of you to think it will not!
    Says longview after extensive economic and social research into the effects of global warming.

    I just love knownothing memes

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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    The sky's not falling. It's just getting hotter.

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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Read Cook's abstract, that's not what it says.
    About 36% of Scientist writing papers about Climate change, endorse AGW.
    Most of the rest do not express a position.
    Boy did you get it wrong.

    Cook et al examined 11,944 abstracts from the peer-reviewed scientific literature from 1991–2011 that matched the topics 'global climate change' or 'global warming'. They found that, while 66.4% of them expressed no position on anthropogenic global warming (AGW), of those that did, 97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming. They also invited authors to rate their own papers and found that, while only 35.5% rated their paper as expressing no position on AGW, 97.2% of the rest endorsed the consensus. In both cases the percentage of endorsements among papers expressing a position was marginally increasing over time. They concluded that the number of papers actually rejecting the consensus on AGW is a vanishingly small proportion of the published research.[21]


    Surveys of scientists' views on climate change - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Your mind on denialism.

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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Do you seriously think a one-year increase in ice area means it's getting colder?
    It's what denialists do best. It's what they have to do.

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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    No that doesn't disprove the AGW theory, which may be at least partly correct. It does show that the scientists don't know how to predict what will happen to the climate in the future. We should not be basing policy on such predictions.
    No it shows that the models up to now have overestimated the warming trend during a particular period. The article suggests why.

    It doesn't imply at all the "scientists don't know how to predict" future climate. Both the models and the measurements show global warming. If the actuality is not as bad as the predictions, that's good news. But we still have to deal with the problem, and denying it is pure knownothingism.

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    Re: Climate models wildly overestimated global warming, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    Hi there Middleground By now you've probably read the rest of the thread. post #50 generally sums up the point.

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    A balance of CO2, thy way nature intended, is fine and dandy. However we humans have tipped the balance, even if it seems ever so slight. And that is what is causing climate change.
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