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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    So...question:

    Am I to understand from the title of this thread Republicans are trying to force Obamacare on people?
    In a manner of speaking, yes. Unions supported Obamacare but now want to be exempt from its provisions. Repubs are encouraging them to take pride in, and ownership of, their creation. Reminds me of the great W.T. Sherman quote: "War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, and I say give it to them."
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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    In a manner of speaking, yes. Unions supported Obamacare but now want to be exempt from its provisions. Repubs are encouraging them to take pride in, and ownership of, their creation. Reminds me of the great W.T. Sherman quote: "War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, and I say give it to them."
    So repeal, except for people you don't like?


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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    But didn't BHO promise that if you like your health insurance you can keep it?
    And we all know, now, that a BHO promise is worth less than used toilet paper...
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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So repeal, except for people you don't like?
    That seems to be the intent of the waivers granted to the donors, bundlers, bunglers and other friends of the administration.
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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Your source agrees with me...

    Which brings us to the second major drafting flaw in Section 1312: They unintentionally made it impossible for the government to contribute to the staff’s premium cost. Ezra Klein at Wonkblog dug up the actual description of the Grassley amendment (see page 17), evidencing the intent that the same employer contribution would apply to ObamaCare exchange coverage:

    This amendment would require that, notwithstanding any other provision of law, beginning in 2013, Members of Congress and Congressional staff must use their employer contribution (adjusted for age rating) to purchase coverage through a state-based exchange, rather than using the traditional selection of plans offered through the Federal Employees Health Benefits Plan (FEHBP).”

    CRS came to the same conclusion that Section 1312 was intended to retain the 72% employer contribution to the premium.
    There it is in black and white. They never intended for congress to lose their employer contribution to their premiums.

    Now lets see if you'll actually admit it this time...
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    So...question:

    Am I to understand from the title of this thread Republicans are trying to force Obamacare on people?
    I prefer to think that they are only doing what they can to make BHO, Reid, and Pelosi happy, by making sure that everyone, including unions and others with prior waivers, complies with Obamacare, which is now the law of the land, whether or not anyone agrees with it, or even wants it. Although it appears to be a very poorly written 10,000 pages of language that no one understands, which has necessitated delaying implementation for those that can't meet the deadline, everyone should understand that the writers of the law only had a year to work on it, and while it did require bribes and arm-twisting to get the necessary Dem votes to pass it, because the Repubs said "no thanks!", that's the way things seem to work in today's hyper-partisan DC, I guess.. And it certainly doesn't help when one of the drafters of Obamacare refers to it as a "train wreck," but I suspect he's only verbalizing what most people think anyway.

    Since I understand that many of the millions that will be affected by this new health care plan haven't even thought about it yet, it will be interesting to see if there are howls of confused outrage when they do, after learning that many of the promises that were made to them about this great new healthcare plan were not true. Such is life!

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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So repeal, except for people you don't like?
    More like repeal if you can, but if that doesn't happen, everyone follow the law by the same rules, including unions.

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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
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    It is going to get to the point that the determining factor on who gets any Obama Care subsidies is who you voted for last election it will be required for you to be a registered democrat to get one
    ..

    You're absolutely correct..... He's already issued a boatload of waivers to unions and other groups that funded himself and other progressives already... Meanwhile his IRS is attacking conservative groups - not only that but branding non-progressive groups "terrorists."

    Before the tyrant was even elected I told people the progressive fascist clown was going to do just that - no one believed me...

    His agenda is textbook - he's a national socialist. Socially he's no better than Hitler - he may not be committing mass genocide in the United States however he's certainly attacking some and rewarding others in an attempt to destroy and punish...

    This is why progressives love him so much - because Obama want's to punish conservatives and reward progressives...

    Progressives are evil because they take joy in this fascism, racism and his all-out bias.

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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    That seems to be the intent of the waivers granted to the donors, bundlers, bunglers and other friends of the administration.
    Ah, so two wrongs make a right.


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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
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    It is going to get to the point that the determining factor on who gets any Obama Care subsidies is who you voted for last election it will be required for you to be a registered democrat to get one
    The tell-tale sign of an illegitimate law is when those who created it allow exemptions for it.
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