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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    I don't like Obamacare either. Who do I see about my subsidy?

    Congress has exempted itself, a number of large companies have been given exemptions, Obama is now struggling for union support. This is more of the same Chicago style cronyism that we've come to expect from this president. I don't know why we keep letting them get away with it.
    1, Congress isn't exempted. They will be getting their insurance through a health care exchange just like anybody else shopping for insurance.

    2. No company has been given an exemption. Some have been given extensions to provide them time to comply with law, but none have received complete exemptions.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    1, Congress isn't exempted. They will be getting their insurance through a health care exchange just like anybody else shopping for insurance.

    2. No company has been given an exemption. Some have been given extensions to provide them time to comply with law, but none have received complete exemptions.
    Uhhh, ...... WRONG!

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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    1, Congress isn't exempted. They will be getting their insurance through a health care exchange just like anybody else shopping for insurance.

    2. No company has been given an exemption. Some have been given extensions to provide them time to comply with law, but none have received complete exemptions.
    another not telling the full story spin away liberal. congress and their staff will be getting the same subsides given to the poor even thou they make way more then what is required to qualify for those subsides

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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    Uhhh, ...... WRONG!

    Thom Paine
    No, actually I'm correct in this case.

    Please provide some evidence contradicting my claims.

    Also, if you're going to honor Thomas Paine by using his alias on a forum, the least you could do is respond to points in a civil and intelligent manner. His writings are some of the most thoughtful things I've ever read. He deserves more respect from you, IMHO.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    another not telling the full story spin away liberal. congress and their staff will be getting the same subsides given to the poor even thou they make way more then what is required to qualify for those subsides
    No, they don't get subsidies. They get employer contributions, like anyone else would from their employer. It's just that their employer happens to be the federal government. And the subsidies that they will receive are of the exact same amount that they currently receive. The only difference is that they will have to buy their insurance on the health care exchange.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    I don't like Obamacare either. Who do I see about my subsidy?
    You don't have to see anybody. Just claim it. The verification procedure isn't ready yet, so Obama's latest workaround is to have everyone self-declare. And in his view, everyone will be honest and fraud will be nonexistent. (Unless you are a registered Republican or a Tea Party activist or member of one of the groups on the IRS hit list.)
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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    No, they don't get subsidies. They get employer contributions, like anyone else would from their employer. It's just that their employer happens to be the federal government. And the subsidies that they will receive are of the exact same amount that they currently receive. The only difference is that they will have to buy their insurance on the health care exchange.
    And those contributions are a violation of the black-letter law, forbidden to private enterprise.
    "We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress & the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."
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    Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    The American people overwhelmingly opposed Obamacare. It was pushed through anyway to satisfy an ego driven agenda. The very fact that Obama likes that its named after him confirmed this. Now it's gone a step further by cementing further a union system that is toxic to economic health at the government level. This will further encourage union formation accelerating this country's death of capitalism. Unfortunately that may be exactly what the left wants.

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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    No, they don't get subsidies. They get employer contributions, like anyone else would from their employer. It's just that their employer happens to be the federal government. And the subsidies that they will receive are of the exact same amount that they currently receive. The only difference is that they will have to buy their insurance on the health care exchange.
    wrong they are employed by the people of the United States paid by their tax money.
    the average insurance contribution by employers is 30% congress and their employees will be getting 75% only others that will be getting that much in subsides is the poor

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    Re: Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    1, Congress isn't exempted. They will be getting their insurance through a health care exchange just like anybody else shopping for insurance.

    2. No company has been given an exemption. Some have been given extensions to provide them time to comply with law, but none have received complete exemptions.
    The result was a full wig out on Capitol Hill, with Members of both parties fretting about "brain drain" as staff face higher health-care costs. Democrats in particular begged the White House for help, claiming the Reid language was merely an unintentional mistake. President Obama told Democrats in a closed-door meeting last week that he would personally moonlight as HR manager and resolve the issue.

    And now the White House is suspending the law to create a double standard. The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) that runs federal benefits will release regulatory details this week, but leaks to the press suggest that Congress will receive extra payments based on the FEHBP defined-contribution formula, which covers about 75% of the cost of the average insurance plan. For 2013, that's about $4,900 for individuals and $10,000 for families.
    Review & Outlook: Congress's ObamaCare Exemption - WSJ.com

    The law is too complicated to understand but this site tries: The Six Types of Obamacare Waivers | Heartland Institute

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