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Thread: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Voting becoming much harder for the intellectually challenged is not the same as voter suppression.
    No. You are absolutely wrong Grant.
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    Voter suppression is a strategy to influence the outcome of an election by discouraging or preventing people from exercising their right to vote. ...
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    Voter suppression is anything that makes it more difficult for any voter to cast their ballot ... especially when fewer people voting increases the odds that a candidate or a party will get an advantage from lower voter participation.
    Voter suppression is exactly what happened in those Colorado districts.

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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Voting becoming much harder for the intellectually challenged is not the same as voter suppression.
    In the south before the Voting Rights Act of 1963 many areas allowed blacks to vote if they could recite parts of the constitution or the preamble to the Declaration of Independence. Blacks could still vote but it became much more difficult to vote That was voter suppression. No one disputes that.
    People in rural areas may need to travel many many miles to find their polling place often taking time from work to make the trip. That is why mail in ballots were invented ...to encourage greater participation of the electorate.
    This election was in an off year and enthusiasm was not great except among the single issue people who collected the signatures to bring it about.

    Republicans are always afraid of greater participation because they tend to lose when more voters are encouraged to vote.

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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It doesn't say much for the Democrat strategists if they weren't prepared for something like this and, of course, it was all done legally. The winning strategy of the Democrats appears to be more straightforward.DEMOCRATS Arrested and/or Convicted of Voter Fraud | Specfriggintacular’s Blog | Eastaustinvoice's Weblog
    Please explain how you can BE PREPARED for a sudden ruling that mail in votes are not going to be allowed with no precedent for such a thing.
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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Maybe you should have offered them some of your advice and experience and it wouldn't have been such a rout.
    I live and work in Michigan.
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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Or just better at lying with a straight face.
    Spoken like a true believer.
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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    No. You are absolutely wrong Grant.

    Voter suppression is anything that makes it more difficult for any voter to cast their ballot ... especially when fewer people voting increases the odds that a candidate or a party will get an advantage from lower voter participation.
    Voter suppression is exactly what happened in those Colorado districts.
    Who were these oppressed voters? Did anyone know in advance which way the votes might go in order to stymie that vote?

    Is the a straight up Democrat versus Republican thing where the Democrats are against gun ownership and assume that all their members will vote the party line?

    It seems odd that anyone would know which way a vote would go on this issue and then, when their supporters don't show up, call it 'oppression'. Maybe, in this case, the people just weren't interested in the party line.

    Or it might be that Democrats just whine and claim foul whenever they don't get their way.

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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I live and work in Michigan.
    I know for a fact that they have internet and telephones in Michigan.

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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Please explain how you can BE PREPARED for a sudden ruling that mail in votes are not going to be allowed with no precedent for such a thing.
    If the Democrats were poorly prepared then that would appear to be their fault.

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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I know for a fact that they have internet and telephones in Michigan.
    yup -

    and your point is what exactly?
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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If the Democrats were poorly prepared then that would appear to be their fault.
    How does one "prepare" for a barring of mail in ballots when 70% of voters had become used to them and that is their preferred method of voting?
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