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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    Well here's a start: First, it's largely irrelevant, if not entirely irrelevant whether voters were mailed their ballots or not. Anyone interested in participating in the vote had incredibly ample opportunity to do so. Moreover, these [recall] elections were so advertised, the issues themselves so intense that even to suggest someone didn't know about the election, let alone the absurdly weak notion that they couldn't because their ballots weren't mailed to them is just patently stupid.

    Next?
    Your opinion abot what may be or is not RELEVANT is not the same as identifying a LIE.

    Is Wasemran right in this statement?

    “Colorado voters are used to casting their ballots by mail, but because of lawsuits filed by opponents of common sense gun reform, voters were not mailed their ballots in this election. Those who intended to vote in person did not learn their polling locations until less than two weeks before Election Day,” she added.
    Put as simply as possible: was their mail in voting allowed in this election?

    Did people not get notification of their polling place until two weeks before election day?

    Your opinion about those things is what is irrelevant. Is she factually correct in these two statement? If she is - there was no LIE.

    look at this article

    Dionne: Gun lobby wins big in Colorado | The Salt Lake Tribune

    In it, it relays two different facts



    Morse also cautioned proponents of stricter gun laws around the country not to read too much into a low-turnout election. (1) He stressed the decision of a politically divided state Supreme Court not to allow mail-in ballots in the contests. (2) Since 70 percent of Coloradans normally vote by mail, the ruling gave the highly energized opponents of the law a leg up. And the latest count showed that Morse was defeated by only 343 votes, although Giron’s margin of defeat was wider.
    I added the numbering.

    It is clear that Wasserman told the truth about the issue of mail in ballots and the reliance of Colorado upon them.

    I am sure your apologies are being sent her way as of this very moment.
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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Nor did he say that she lied in the OP. He made a statement that she is a liar, you asked for evidence that she lies, he provided it, and you respond with a different question, aka: Moving the goal posts.

    Don't bother trying to defend DWS, its a lose lose scenario.
    The freakin goal posts are on the field regarding this particular election and the statement of Wassermann about it. That is the field and those are the damn goal posts. To pretend otherwise is intellectually dishonest. It is like reproducing a statement from Richard Nixon on Watergate and saying he is a liar and when challenged producing something he said in the 1948 Senate campaign. That is moving the goal posts.
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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your opinion abot what may be or is not RELEVANT is not the same as identifying a LIE.
    Is Wasemran right in this statement?
    Put as simply as possible: was their mail in voting allowed in this election?
    Did people not get notification of their polling place until two weeks before election day?
    Your opinion about those things is what is irrelevant. Is she factually correct in these two statement? If she is - there was no LIE.
    look at this article
    In it, it relays two different facts
    I added the numbering.
    It is clear that Wasserman told the truth about the issue of mail in ballots and the reliance of Colorado upon them.
    I am sure your apologies are being sent her way as of this very moment.


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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What did she lie about in this particular story that prompted you ire?
    I didn't say that what she said was a lie, because nobody can prove voter suppression didn't happen. What she said was nothing but a cheap political excuse that of course she can't substantiate. Rather than just accepting the fact that the democrats were recalled because their actions resulted in a loss of public support, she pathetically accused republicans, conservatives, and the NRA of suppressing the vote of their supporters.

    The woman is a complete and utter disgrace...

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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

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    Wow.
    Yeah - I figured you would not be able to explain it and show that Wasserman lied about the topic being discussed in the OP.

    Most excellent of you to confirm it.

    I guess your side should have made it clear from the start that you were simply using these latest comments in which Wasserman spoke the factual truth to attack her as an opponent of the right wing political agenda in this nation and was simply part of standard vitriolic poison.
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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I didn't say that what she said was a lie, because nobody can prove voter suppression didn't happen. What she said was nothing but a cheap political excuse that of course she can't substantiate. Rather than just accepting the fact that the democrats were recalled because their actions resulted in a loss of public support, she pathetically accused republicans, conservatives, and the NRA of suppressing the vote of their supporters.

    The woman is a complete and utter disgrace...
    That is pure BS. You said this AFTER YOU CITED citing the article with her comments about the recall election

    She's a lying, disgusting pig and a poor excuse for a human being.
    It is clear that Wasserman spoke the truth about this election that she was commenting upon.

    The pig remark and the poor excuse for a human being nonsense I am dismissing as your usual political extremism which is simply being flushed as ridiculous.
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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Maybe she should have had her office release something like this..."not intended to be a factual statement."

    Seemed to have worked for Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ.).
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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Maybe she should have had her office release something like this..."not intended to be a factual statement."

    Seemed to have worked for Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ.).
    But we have already determined that her statement as it applied to
    1) the barring of mail in ballots in this election, and
    2) the normal dependence on the Colorado voter on mail in ballots

    was truthful and factual.
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    Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz on COL recall: 'Voter Suppression, Pure and Simple’

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That is pure BS. You said this AFTER YOU CITED citing the article with her comments about the recall election
    This is really simple, so listen up ... I'm not playing this BS liberal game with you. I'm tired of trying to engage in dialog with intellectually dishonest people who ignore common sense just to play politics...

    Here's an example of the results that can be achieved when a person applys their intelligence and common sense, rather than letting their politics do their thinking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Nor did he say that she lied in the OP. He made a statement that she is a liar, you asked for evidence that she lies, he provided it, and you respond with a different question, aka: Moving the goal posts.

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