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    Re: How the Syria Plan Broke Through, Just in Time.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    How do you know he "folded", be will probably get more help from Putin in lieu of the weapons.
    Well.....we got the facts now with how the Syria issue played out. Which shows all that bipartisanship in opposing the Striking of Syria.

    Diane Feinstein said it best.....when she said she hoped that the International Community Would contribute and invest in Syria. Pretty much saying. . Go and handle it then. We will support ya.

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    Re: How the Syria Plan Broke Through, Just in Time.....

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Good point

    I'm sure that giving up his chem weapons was something Assad was planning to do from the very beginning!
    Heya Sangha. So whats the excuse for what was said about the Chems 2 years ago.....wherein the main concern was AQ or likes could get their hands on them?

    Which they did......then used them.

    Even traitors and defectors of the Assad regime and are part of the FSA have stated that Assad could not stop AQ or their likes from taking certain chem facilities. That Assad doesn't have the forces to cover them.

    2 years ago......Chems in the hand of Terrorists was the terminology used. The Major concern of All. How do you think that plays out as an excuse now, knowing all along that Assad couldn't stop them from taking Chems? When the Brits and French knew that Rebels/ Terrorists had used Chems or were attacking in an area with a Chemical facility.....Where was the Call to Strike? to go and get those Chems?

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    Re: How the Syria Plan Broke Through, Just in Time.....

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Re: Israel and Syria I heard one annalist say that they know who they are dealing with with Assad in power. With the radical Islamist rebels they don't know what to expect if they were to take political control of Syria.

    But one scenario is, if and or when Israel attacks Iran's nuclear facilities and Assad is still in power, Iran's retaliation against Israel will be launched from Syria.

    As we have witnessed over the past few years, Obama has supported overthrowing American allies and supporting Islamist radicals which include the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda. As the Washington Times reported the other day that the CIA has confirmed that Al Qaeda has expanded under the Obama administration and that Al Qaeda terrorist attacks have increased under the Obama administration. But Obama lied to the American people to get reelected by proclaiming that it was all about a Youtube video and that Al Qaeda was on the run and being decimated when the truth was it's a complete opposite.

    Where ever Obama has inserted his failed foreign policies we see the results like in Egypt, Libya, etc.

    Yeah, I know I saw ya thread on the Stratfor Assessment......which I threw up a couple of others in there for you to check out.

    I would agree Obama has been part of that Neo Con and Neo Lib agenda.....the Neos- me, me, and more me, then that NWO citizen of the World BS.

    Its not just Obama.....its the Damn French too. they are the ones filing for Enforceable Action in the UN. They have done so with 5 different countries. In Which they haven't handled not one adventure all to their little lonesome selves.

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    Re: How the Syria Plan Broke Through, Just in Time.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Sangha. So whats the excuse for what was said about the Chems 2 years ago.....wherein the main concern was AQ or likes could get their hands on them?

    Which they did......then used them.

    Even traitors and defectors of the Assad regime and are part of the FSA have stated that Assad could not stop AQ or their likes from taking certain chem facilities. That Assad doesn't have the forces to cover them.

    2 years ago......Chems in the hand of Terrorists was the terminology used. The Major concern of All. How do you think that plays out as an excuse now, knowing all along that Assad couldn't stop them from taking Chems? When the Brits and French knew that Rebels/ Terrorists had used Chems or were attacking in an area with a Chemical facility.....Where was the Call to Strike? to go and get those Chems?
    If you want me to answer that, you'll have to first translate that into english
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    Re: How the Syria Plan Broke Through, Just in Time.....

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Putin probably actually plays chess while Obama plays checkers with Malia and Natasha and loses most of the time.

    You have to be street wise with dealing with Putin. He's a street thug (X-KGB) and like most thugs they want respect they haven't earned. When dealing with Putin you have to have perpetual vision or Putin will cold cock you when your not expecting it.

    Where as Obama was given the benefit of doubt in the beginning and shown the respect he never earned and soon it was obvious, Obama wasn't ready for the major leagues.
    We should replace Obama with Bullwinkle if we wanna hand Boris his a$$. Next POTUS will be Billary Clinton and her sidekick will probably be Kerry. While we may not love DNC's platform or even love Bubba's wife; I think she knows how to play hardball on the world stage. I'm guessing on the GOP side, if those skydaddy god squad loons know what's good for them they will pony up to the bar with Jim Christie and maybe Rand Paul for VP. Otherwise they won't have a shot againt Billary-Kerry if they come up with another combo like Brigham Young and Lyin' Ryan.

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    Re: How the Syria Plan Broke Through, Just in Time.....

    I just saw something on AP that sounds like this Russia plan is going to fall through. Is Assad doing one of those "we will get around to it someday" deals like how Iran always drags everything out and then blows it off? North Korea pulls that crap all the time too. I guess Assad is learning how to play this game.

    Kerry rejects Assad's 30-day timetable

    Kerry rejects Assad's 30-day timetable

    GENEVA (AP) — U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry is rejecting Syrian President Bashar Assad's (bah-SHAR' AH'-sahd) suggestion he begin submitting data on his chemical weapons arsenal one month after signing an international chemical weapons ban.
    Kerry spoke at a news conference Thursday with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov (SEHR'-gay LAHV'-rahf). Kerry noted Assad said a 30-day lead time would be standard.
    Kerry said, quote, "there is nothing standard about this process" because Assad used chemical weapons. Kerry said the Syrian regime's words are not enough.
    Kerry cautions that a U.S. military strike could happen if Assad doesn't agree to dismantle his chemical arsenal properly.

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    Re: How the Syria Plan Broke Through, Just in Time.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Do you think Russia and China are going to support sanctions against Russia for selling weapons? It is big business and won't be stopped.
    Of course not.
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    As for nuclear reactors--those are unavoidable. Persia will run out of oil before it runs out of people and they need the electricity.
    And I wouldn't have a problem with civilian use reactors. But Iran has tens of thousands of centrifuges running full blast right now according to the IAEA. That has nothing to do with civilian use. Their excuse of "medical" use for the enriched material is bogus. They could get that material from their buddies Russia or China, and it could be tracked by the IAEA. But no. They want their own nuclear program, which can be easily be utilized for fissile material production, and that's why they are refusing full IAEA inspections or monitoring.

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    Re: How the Syria Plan Broke Through, Just in Time.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Realistically, except for syria's principled refusal to acknowledge Israel getting in the way, it is probably the only Arab country in the region that had pro-west possibilities because of its government's secular nature. Law and order has traditionally been the only real focus of the government.
    It's a matter of money.

    Russia supports the Assad regime. We do not. If we had supported Assad, like we did Mubarak, then Iran wouldn't have a partner/conduit against Israel, and the US would have had a secular partner that would have helped us fight Al Qaeda. But no. We had to make them the "enemy" because of their relationship with Russia and their support of Saddam, and so on.

    Again, it's a matter of money. In international relations, money is the binding force of friendships, not ideologies.

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    Re: How the Syria Plan Broke Through, Just in Time.....

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If you want me to answer that, you'll have to first translate that into english
    Ah I see.....you need things in a more simplified and simpleton like way. NP! So then lets make it real simple and easy like for ya. Something so easy that even a Gomer Pyle would know. Either that.....or it just shows you have no clue as to what you are talking about. Lets leave that on you.

    Now whats your lame excuses over the Chems and what was said two years ago about them by, none other than that Team Obama you like to Pontificate for.

    Now.....don't let the simplified and easy get you all Cornfullezed. As I wouldn't want many saying I took advantage of you, Again!

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    Re: How the Syria Plan Broke Through, Just in Time.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    We should replace Obama with Bullwinkle if we wanna hand Boris his a$$. Next POTUS will be Billary Clinton and her sidekick will probably be Kerry. While we may not love DNC's platform or even love Bubba's wife; I think she knows how to play hardball on the world stage. I'm guessing on the GOP side, if those skydaddy god squad loons know what's good for them they will pony up to the bar with Jim Christie and maybe Rand Paul for VP. Otherwise they won't have a shot againt Billary-Kerry if they come up with another combo like Brigham Young and Lyin' Ryan.
    Are the left that stupid to run another second rate lefty as President like Hillary ? I suppose it all depends how misinformed or uninformed the voters will remain in 2016. Hillary was a failed Secretary of State. But she's not a narcissist like Obama so she might surround herself with competent people. But I doubt she has the leadership capabilities of being able to reach across the aisle so Congress actually accomplish something.

    I doubt the GOP would actually run a conservative, at least they haven't in the past twenty five years.

    If the liberals are right that the GOP has moved so far to the right, then the GOP must be full of reactionaries. If true they are doing a pretty damn good of a job hiding.

    The GOP should run a reactionary for President running on a platform of repealing every piece of legislation that has been passed by Congress since 2001 that has taken away our individual freedoms, disbanding the Dept. of Homeland Security and reinstating every member of the military who have been relieved of their commands or forced out of the service because they weren't politically correct enough for Obama's liking. Repealing NAFTA should also be a priority along with a 1,000 % tariff on any garbage that is imported into America. Americans have to go back demanding quality not cheap stuff.

    The question is, are there any reactionaries in America any more ? The liberals claim that the GOP has moved so far to the right, if true where are they ?

    Actually I think the Democrat Party has actually moved so far to the left that conservatives look to be the extreme. Pat Buchanan's political ideology is the same today as it was back in 1970 and Pat was looked at being a conservative moderate.

    What the Libertarians should do is exactly what the JFK liberals did during the 1970's, coming under the GOP tent who created a new label to stand behind, neoconservatives. They actually were able to gain control of the GOP during the 1990's and hold onto power until 2010. The Libertarians could do the same thing. The GOP is the party of diversity where everyone is allowed to have dissenting views not like the Democrat Party where everyone is in goose stepping locksteps and dissenting views are forbidden.

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