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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Is this thread about women on combat ships or is it a troll thread for liberal scum? I'm confused.










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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I can only speak about what I know about Navy ships. I was stationed on 6 of them during my Naval Career............Sorry
    So you really don't know if there actually is a difference between Navy Ships and other civilian ships at seas in regards to rape cases.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Sure but they don't affect the national security of this country.......
    Sir: you tell that to the people that manned the radar system at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on December 7, 1941. I'm sorry but yes it does.

    You tell that to the intelligence community that was warned repeatedly about the people - that were eventually trained to fly planes in to buildings - about them being heavily suspected in terrorists activities from various sources. I'm sorry but yes it does.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So you really don't know if there actually is a difference between Navy Ships and other civilian ships at seas in regards to rape cases.
    That is true..When I started this thread it was about the Navy and that was the link I provided. I don't know what goes on aboard civilian maritime ships. I guess you could find some info on that and start a thread if you like. My concern is the U.S. Navy and our national defense being hampered by social experimentation.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Sir: you tell that to the people that manned the radar system at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on December 7, 1941. I'm sorry but yes it does.

    You tell that to the intelligence community that was warned repeatedly about the people - that were eventually trained to fly planes in to buildings - about them being heavily suspected in terrorists activities from various sources. I'm sorry but yes it does.
    I don't know who manned the radars in 1941 at Pearl but it was not female sailors although I would not have a problem with that.......
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is true..When I started this thread it was about the Navy and that was the link I provided. I don't know what goes on aboard civilian maritime ships. I guess you could find some info on that and start a thread if you like. My concern is the U.S. Navy and our national defense being hampered by social experimentation.
    You said that the difference between the civilian sector vs the Navy is that ....

    The difference is my left wing friend that in the Navy ships spend a long time at sea. In the civilian community that is not the case...In the civilian community you can go home at 1600. At sea aboard a ship its 24/7. That is what I meant by the environment which you seem not to get.
    Yet when comparisons are made you admit you don't know that it actually is different. How can you argue something when you don't know the difference? Your statement may be correct on land. But the Navy does not work on land. It works on the sea. As such a valid comparison would be the civilian equivalent, civilian merchantships.

    Now my question to you would be, if rapes happen less on civilian ships than Navy ships...what is the difference? It can't be the amount of time spent on ships as they are comparable.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You said that the difference between the civilian sector vs the Navy is that ....



    Yet when comparisons are made you admit you don't know that it actually is different. How can you argue something when you don't know the difference? Your statement may be correct on land. But the Navy does not work on land. It works on the sea. As such a valid comparison would be the civilian equivalent, civilian merchantships.

    Now my question to you would be, if rapes happen less on civilian ships than Navy ships...what is the difference? It can't be the amount of time spent on ships as they are comparable.
    I was talking about the civilian sector in general where men and women work together...Of course there are exceptions to every rule my friend.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I was talking about the civilian sector in general where men and women work together...Of course there are exceptions to every rule my friend.
    Well, if we're talking generally then you can't really narrow down to one specific reason. IE: on the ships for weeks on end. If you do then the results will just get distorted because you are narrowing down one thing while not narrowing down the other.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    I had a bunch more comments, but I'm going to leave it to just the problematic assumptions about the various genders.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I blame anyone who is found guilty of unwanted sexual advances. What I m telling you but you don't want to hear it is before women served aboard combatants we never had this problem..
    Instead, rapist sailors just raped civilians. Yes, when rapists don't have victims to rape, they don't rape them. But what kind of backwards idea is it to coddle the rapists and punish the victims? Tell me, do you think that women would be less often the victims of rape if they were always escorted by a male keeper? You're suggesting limiting women's choices because men just can't help but rape them, right? Why not follow that line of thinking past the navy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    She is not alone. In the Navy its zero tolerance...A female might not like a male and she accused him of sexual advances.....His career is finished.
    And you think that one gender over another is more inclined to falsely accuse someone of this? We keep coming back to you blaming problems on women as a whole, like tempting men and lying to men is just in their nature.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I think what he's saying, and I agree, is that the females should have never been put in a spot where they could be assaulted. Sure, it would still happen sometimes. But, if you notice, the more we integrate sexes, the more males and females work together, the more assaults occur. It's the nature of the beast. Just because it's the military doesn't mean we are impervious to things like this. We have bad apples just like the civilian world does.
    So, it's just in men's nature to rape? And you're okay with this? What else should we not let women do because men can't help themselves?

    Just so we're clear, I'm pretty offended whenever someone contends that I, as a man, am just built to be rape-y. If you're okay with it, you should re-evaluate your view of yourself.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Well, if we're talking generally then you can't really narrow down to one specific reason. IE: on the ships for weeks on end. If you do then the results will just get distorted because you are narrowing down one thing while not narrowing down the other.
    726 sexual assaults in the Navy last year. a couple hundred more then the previous year...Those are the facts.
    I truly believe that the only way you can solve this problem is to have one sex ships but that will never happen.
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