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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Except there is no proof that assaults actually went up, but rather that reporting sexual assaults went up, particularly if the person actually was gay and could report it without worrying about their own sexuality coming out during the investigation and that discovery being used to put them out of the military simply because the information was part of the official report.

    It's sort of like the whole being afraid to report a sexual assault because it happened while an underage person was drunk. I did my own share of underage drinking, and in fact had an incident that could have resulted in this dilemma for me had it not been for the "bystander intervention" (term used in our sexual assault trainings now) of some of the guys I was drinking with. And it was a situation that was more than possible happening had I not been in the military but rather in college or just out on my own at the time. I was in training, in a college town, at a house party with a bunch of people no older than 24, most younger than 21.

    And, as I've said on here before, the biggest incident of male on male sexual assault occurred due to revenge and anger and humiliation involving a bunch of straight guys against their straight, male LPO, prior to DADT being repealed.
    Oh, so reporting went up? Okay, that explains all of the numbers going up then. So there's no sexual assault issue then. Yay!
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    I am a Plankowner on the USS RONALD REAGAN and I can assure you, it was the cleanest ship at the carrier piers when we were in Norfolk and was substantially cleaner than than the NIMITZ when we moved to NASNI. I left in May 05, so things am have changed since then.

    And yes, we had mattresses.... Can you believe how soft that has made our Sailors? Oh! For the days of hammocks!
    I would expect a spanking new carrier would look clean. It probably had that new carrier smell didn't it ?

    Just like when you buy a new car.

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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    I guess what I was trying to say is there are a lot of problems on a combatant at sea to handle and because of the left and their PC all we did is add another huge one that wasn't there before. I am not blaming the women or the men on the ship. I am blaming the liberals who shoved it down the Navy throat.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I guess what I was trying to say is there are a lot of problems on a combatant at sea to handle and because of the left and their PC all we did is add another huge one that wasn't there before. I am not blaming the women or the men on the ship. I am blaming the liberals who shoved it down the Navy throat.
    No...you are making excuses for the guys who don't have enough in their big head that they get controlled by their little head. The fact that the vast majority of those in the military are mature and able enough to control themselves shouldn't be overriden by a handful of numbskulls who shouldn't have been in the military in the first place.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No...you are making excuses for the guys who don't have enough in their big head that they get controlled by their little head. The fact that the vast majority of those in the military are mature and able enough to control themselves shouldn't be overriden by a handful of numbskulls who shouldn't have been in the military in the first place.
    This from a Liberal who hates our military, has never served in it and is clueless about what happens on a Navy Combatant.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    What I can gather from this thread is that those who very publicly announce their military ties are the stupidest members of this forum and need their inflated egos popped.

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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    This from a Liberal who hates our military, has never served in it and is clueless about what happens on a Navy Combatant.
    Sorry NP....as much as you love to claim that I hate the military, you couldn't be more wrong (what else is new). True....I didn't personally serve in the military, but you don't have to serve in the military to respect and honor the military (as much as you love to play that tired line as well). I come from a long line of military family. My Father served in the Navy during WW2. It was probably because of that that I DIDN'T serve. See....my father loved the Navy, it gave him a life that he didn't otherwise have. But unlike you, my father actually saw combat during ww2 and saw the atrocities of war. Although he respected the military, he provided a life for me that allowed me to go to college and obtain a degree without having to go into the military. This was during the 80's where we were facing the very real possibility of ending up in a war in the middle east.
    The reality is, NP, you don't like the fact that women serve in the military. You don't like the fact that gays can now serve in the military. You are a stubborn old man that would prefer to keep things the way the world existed back in the 50's. Sorry...but the world evolves and the bigotry of the past is getting left behind, despite your attempts to make excuses and project blame in all the wrong places.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Oh, so reporting went up? Okay, that explains all of the numbers going up then. So there's no sexual assault issue then. Yay!
    Since reporting is the way that sexual assaults are known about, then yes, reporting went up. And no, there is not a bigger sexual assault issue compared to either the rest of the country, nor even to the past, particularly prior to DADT being repealed. It is really a matter of looking at all the information instead of just that which fits with what people want. And that goes for whether you are trying to blame gays for committing more sexual assaults now that they can serve openly, blame women on ships for someone sexually assaulting them, mainly in port, or trying to claim that the military is some breeding ground for sexual assaults unseen by the rest of the country or world or any other work place.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Weren't you on the Reagan ? If so, I've been aboard the Reagan and my escort who was a Chief agreed with me that the Reagan wasn't as clean as the ships before the PC Navy.

    Come on man, when the entire ship's company is suppose to turn to and man the brooms it's called Happy Hour ? Todays ships don't have enough deck apes onboard to keep the ship clean and ship shape.

    They even have mattresses on the racks in todays PC Navy.
    No, I was on the Lincoln.

    And I don't care what some old guy has to say. It doesn't make him or you correct in those opinions. It is extremely common for most older people to think that things were better in the past, when they served, or where they were before.

    And OMG, you mean allowing us to get good sleep is such an issue that it must be decreasing our effectiveness? What in the heck are you smoking?
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Yeah, got roped into that as well. Was internally saying "Riiiiiggghhhht" when they kicked it off as a open "sharing" discussion format without fear of reprisal. The only reason I was surprised by the stats disparity is simply that the military is a reflection of American society as a whole. While there is a screening process designed to weed out rift raft, its not perfect and some d-bags slip through. Looking at the stats, its seems the filtering is more effective than I thought. This should honestly be something thats praised, not demogogued.
    Oh, sexist or not, no one said much when I was the main one bringing up the issues that come from the way they want to treat sexual assault accusations in the Navy, particularly telling us that essentially any person (but essentially "guy") accused of sexual assault is automatically assumed guilty unless he can prove himself innocent. It is absolutely wrong, and that is PC, but it has absolutely nothing to do with either women in the military or gays serving openly, as some on here often try to insinuate or even just plain out assert.

    We honestly do a pretty good job at combating sexual assault, and our numbers show that we are much better at it than the majority of the rest of the country, and most likely even other work places and/or school environments, going way too overboard in many cases.
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