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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That's all I need to know about you then. The fact you think killing gays for homosexual acts is justified shows you to be no different than any other hate group.
    Back in 1533 it was a capital offense.

    During the 1800's in America they hung horse thieves.

    Today in America if they were to sentence car thieves to death I wouldn't have any problem with it. It's usually the second most expensive purchase that most Americans make and someones rips off your car and it they are caught and only do 90 days in the county jail ! Give me a break.

    Back to the original topic of the OP. Under the UCMJ rape can carry the death sentence by hanging. Since post WW ll, I believe that sentence has only been carried out twice. During WW ll close to a hundred Army soldiers were hung by the neck for rape.

    Why don't they hang those today in the military who commit rape ? I know why, the political left had a problem with it. And they even played the race card.

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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What causes one to be classified as CAT-4?
    Today the U.S. military uses the AFQT. Back when I enlisted they used a different test but the left said it was racist. They did the same thing with the GCT. So today you rarely hear anyone using ones GCT score but I understand that some officers and in the Marine Corps some MOS's require taking the GCT.

    An Armed Forces Qualification Test (AFQT) score is used to determine basic qualification for enlistment.

    AFQT Scores are divided into the following categories:

    Category I: 93100
    Category II: 6592
    Category III A: 5064
    Category III B: 3149
    Category IV A: 2130
    Category IV B: 1620
    Category IV C: 1015
    Category V: 09

    Before 2009 you had to be a CAT-l to attend one of the military academies. Obama lowered it to CAT-lll's in the name of diversity. BTW. all whites still have to be CAT-l's.

    Don't you just love social engineering when you are wondering if your daughters platoon commander was one of those CAT-lll officers while she's one of the first female grunts involved in a firefight ?

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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    all whites still have to be CAT-l's.
    I find that hard to believe.

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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Guys, lay off Navy Pride. Especially those of you that have never served. You simply don't know the environment we work in. It's not like working in an office with females. It's very different from that. I don't think Navy Pride is blaming the victims. I think what he's saying, and I agree, is that the females should have never been put in a spot where they could be assaulted. Sure, it would still happen sometimes. But, if you notice, the more we integrate sexes, the more males and females work together, the more assaults occur. It's the nature of the beast. Just because it's the military doesn't mean we are impervious to things like this. We have bad apples just like the civilian world does.
    It's funny how people who never spent anytime in the service are suddenly experts.

    We said this would happen with the abolition of DADT.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I've heard more than a few stories of gay sailors being thrown overboard off of Okinawa and the PI's.

    I was a Marine but I was aboard a number of USN ships, mostly Essex class carriers that were used as LPH's and County class LSD's. These ships were built for only one purpose, to fight battles at sea. There was no consideration of providing any comfort when these ships were built. Squad bays with 200 Marines or sailors with racks stacked four high. No such thing as toilet stall or shower stalls. Gang showers what they were called. And if any one was caught eye ####### someone he either disappeared by morning muster or if he was lucky he ended up in sickbay saying he ran into a hatchway.

    When ashore watching your buddy's six wasn't thinking about anally sodomizing him but making sure that Charley didn't kill him.

    I think rougenuke that Navypride can compare todays PC Navy with the fighting navy of the past. Are you able to do the same ?

    When the Secretary of Defense (Hagel) tells the U.S. military that it's main mission today is fighting sexual assaults, we have a problem. That's not the mission of the Navy, Marine Corps, Army or Air Force.
    When did this problem began ? What was responsible for causing this problem in the first place ? Lets go back and look when there was no problem.

    When liberals use the U.S. military for social engineering experimentation are they that stupid not to think things through asking what will be the consequences be ? Yes they are that stupid.

    I though after McNamara's "Moron Brigade" and the consequences of that social engineering experiment and looking at the consequences when you look at the thousand names on that "Wall" that should have never been on that wall, liberals would have stopped using the military for social engineering.

    Join todays PC Navy and fight sexual assaults.
    You are describing a problem due to PCism, not women in the military or serving on combat ships. You and NP are wrongfully attributing the issue to women serving on combat ships instead of the media overblowing all instances of sexual assault, particularly within organizations such as the military and causing our military command to then greatly overreact to these attempted accusations that the problem is somehow mainly in our military. It isn't. It exists in every country, in every organization in the world. Sexual assault occurs all over, and one of the best places to combat it is in the military.

    It shouldn't be our main mission. That is PC nonsense, but it also has nothing to do with women serving. Those sexual assaults would still very likely occur. The victims and place where it occurs could be different, but that wouldn't change the numbers. It would make those like you feel better because it would likely change the Navy's numbers, but it wouldn't change the numbers overall. It would simply shuffle around who sexual assaults were being reported to. It could possibly make the situation worse though because there would likely be no extra help available to those women and men who are sexually assaulted, as there is now.

    And your insinuation that people being thrown overboard for such things and that this is a good thing, is wrong in many ways. First of all, murder is wrong, especially vigilante murder. Second, not all those who sexually assaulted men were doing so out of attraction or in a way seen as "gay", despite popular belief.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its been awhile but still the rose colored glasses huh?
    I know what I'm talking about. I serve right now and served on the ships with women and men, and I know what happened, and what the real information says. Most sexual assaults occur in port, in hotel rooms or apartments or BEQs or even just in port. Most are not occurring on our ships. So they would happen either way and likely in greater numbers.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It's a Navy JAG Corps and NIS/NCIS problem not mine.

    But are you suggesting that President Clinton and the Democrats screwed up by over downsizing the military, that we should put Marine detachments back on warships ? They did keep the squids in place and when stories passed through the ships company that those Marine brig guards were sadistic mother #######, there was less disciplinary problems on board the ship. Also the Marines set an example how a ship should be kept ship shape and clean, the decks were always clean, no paint flaking anywhere and the brass was even shinier.

    "A ship without Marines is like a garment without buttons." Adm David G. Farragut
    What a load of garbage. My husband served as a Marine on a ship. That ship was not in any better shape nor cleaner than any other ship. You certainly have on some bias jeans today if you honestly think that Marines, instead of leadership is what keeps a ship running well.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    What a load of garbage. My husband served as a Marine on a ship. That ship was not in any better shape nor cleaner than any other ship. You certainly have on some bias jeans today if you honestly think that Marines, instead of leadership is what keeps a ship running well.
    Did hubby serve with a Marine ship detachment on a PC Navy love boat or back during the day on a war ship ?

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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Did hubby serve with a Marine ship detachment on a PC Navy love boat or back during the day on a war ship ?
    You're the one who claimed Marines onboard would be enough to ensure that they were kept cleaner and more efficient than any other ship. There are still several ships that have Marines aboard and yet they are no better or worse than any other vessels. In fact, submarines do and have always been the cleanest, best run Navy vessels because they have to. It has nothing to do with what gender is onboard, and everything to do with the level of leadership involved and need of the ship.

    My ship was very clean and well run. Our crew was about 10% female and we had very little problems in our cleanliness or combat capability. We cleaned every day. It was called "Happy Hour", "sweepers", after watch cleanup, and pretty much any time besides those the CO or any leader below him wanted to make us clean. We had a critical inspection every year, plus 4 pre-inspections just for our department.

    You simply have no real clue about what is truly going on in our Navy today, and the truth is that neither does NP. Things change, deal with it.
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    Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

    So 1100 out of 322k breaks down to roughly .3%. The national average of sexual assault is 5.6% according to CDC. Pretty surprised by the disparity and would have thought the numbers would be closer.

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