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    Re: Netherlands Close Eight Prisons Due To Lack Of Criminals

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    From your link:

    "A vast majority of prisoners have committed violent or serious offenses.
    At year-end 2012, 88% of inmates had a current or prior violent or serious felony conviction, and 16% were registered sex offenders. A large percentage of inmates have long-term sentences: 25% are serving a "second strike” sentence, and 19% are lifers with the possibility of parole. Smaller proportions are serving a "third strike” sentence (7%) or are serving life sentences without the possibility of parole (4%).

    One of our links is seriously wrong. I better look into this some more.
    Apples and oranges. It would be implying that those in prison with violence in their past would have committed violence in every crime they were arrested for... and being that most criminals are repeat offenders, it's likely that one of their crimes may have had violence in them while 8 other arrests didn't. I'd be willing to be that their first several crimes didn't and their prison sentences hardened them into the more violent criminal of later years.
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    Re: Netherlands Close Eight Prisons Due To Lack Of Criminals

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They have a totally different demographic.
    Why apdst... what ever do you mean? lol
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    Re: Netherlands Close Eight Prisons Due To Lack Of Criminals

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Such as?
    I do not know, but in hundreds of years there must be things that could be added or changed in any constitution? Who knows, maybe if you ask people would they change the second amendment do add the line "background checks do not violate the right to bear arms".

    Who knows, maybe people would love to see the current electoral system changed?
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Netherlands Close Eight Prisons Due To Lack Of Criminals

    Yanno this is pretty cool that we have an intelligent informed person living in the Netherlands discussing this topic. 20 or so odd years ago this kind of direct communication would have would have been a bit more difficult.

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    Re: Netherlands Close Eight Prisons Due To Lack Of Criminals

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Because Norway is basically the Netherlands, right? I mean, they're all the same over dere.
    It was sarcasm

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    Re: Netherlands Close Eight Prisons Due To Lack Of Criminals

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Your thread sawyer says that California started sending its lower risk prisoners to county prisons. Presumably, the stats in your link then represent only the 33 California state prisons that house mostly violent criminals. Thus, the stats are true, but aren't really comparable to the other link.
    Could be. However, the county prisons are overcrowded, so they have been releasing thousands of prisoners early over the last year or so. I don't have the current stats, and they may not exist yet, but it's certainly possible the percentage of non-violent, drug related prisoners is considerably less than what is being discussed by pro-drug supporters.

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    Re: Netherlands Close Eight Prisons Due To Lack Of Criminals

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Only a very small part of the Netherlands (the southern part of the province of Limburg) was freed by the Americans, the rest of the Netherlands was largely freed by the Canadians.

    But, the entire continent of Europe has a debt of gratitude to all American troops, American workers and American families who's men fought and died for the freedom of everyone in Europe. This debt is also there for Canada, Britain, Russia and all other troops, workers and families who made the same great sacrifices that the Americans made to free us all from the evil Nazi's.
    Before The Netherlands could be liberated, we had to kick their asses in Africa, Italy and France...where hundreds of thousands of Americans died.
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    Re: Netherlands Close Eight Prisons Due To Lack Of Criminals

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Before The Netherlands could be liberated, we had to kick their asses in Africa, Italy and France...where hundreds of thousands of Americans died.
    Yes, and for that we owe the allied forces (of which the Americans were the leading force) a debt of gratitude. As I already stated that we owe that debt of gratitude.
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    Re: Netherlands Close Eight Prisons Due To Lack Of Criminals

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Netherlands Close Eight Prisons Due To Lack Of Criminals



    This is what the prison system looks like in a country that doesn't have insane drug laws and isn't arresting people for looking at a cop the wrong way.
    And their cops are always stoned..

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    Re: Netherlands Close Eight Prisons Due To Lack Of Criminals

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    An excellent opportunity to outsource our prisons.
    Actually, that's a brilliant idea.

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