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    Re: Gay Marriage Stirs Little Public Outcry in NM

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You misunderstand me. From the beginning I said I personally don't care one way or the other but the fact is once you start down this path with gay marriage you don't know where it will end. If you think all consenting adults should be able to marry that is fine but realize you are drastically changing the entire concept of marriage to this point in US history.
    I did note that polygamy itself would change the legal definition of marriage because partnership contract would not readily apply to more than two people. From a legal standpoint we would have to have a way of determining legal status in a domestic group that was more than two people. That still does not actually change marriage for people in a partnership, or the definition of any religious marriage. You are trying to tell us Joe Redneck's definition of marriage is so damn important we cannot tell him to suck it up and grow a brain. I don't see any reason to tell johnny the faggot he cannot marry his lover because Joe Redneck is too stupid to wrap his mind around the idea of two dudes getting married. Let Joe get a tutor, and who the hell cares about the slope?

    Why do we always call it a slippery slope like we are sliding down it? We damned sure did slide down a slope to banning marriage. There was no gender specifications on marriage in most places and we slid down the slope to having those specifications. We slid down the slope to taking people's rights to enter into a civil contract with anyone of consenting age they wanted to away. We are climbing this slope to the next plateau, and if there is a further climb we need to make uphill so some consenting age polygamists can go make their life better by marrying each other then we should climb further because it sucks to be denied marriage and the benefits of family contracts and the protections your family gets from them simply because of some selfish religious nutbars.

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    Re: Gay Marriage Stirs Little Public Outcry in NM

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I'm all for giving them all legal rights but if you let them get married you fundamentally change the meaning of the word. There is no denying that.
    yes there is because its simply not true.

    was letting black legally be a person change the word? nope it was just granting equal rights. did letting women vote change the word? again nope. How about letting interracial couples marry? nope again
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    Re: Gay Marriage Stirs Little Public Outcry in NM

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    I did note that polygamy itself would change the legal definition of marriage because partnership contract would not readily apply to more than two people. From a legal standpoint we would have to have a way of determining legal status in a domestic group that was more than two people. That still does not actually change marriage for people in a partnership, or the definition of any religious marriage. You are trying to tell us Joe Redneck's definition of marriage is so damn important we cannot tell him to suck it up and grow a brain. I don't see any reason to tell johnny the faggot he cannot marry his lover because Joe Redneck is too stupid to wrap his mind around the idea of two dudes getting married. Let Joe get a tutor, and who the hell cares about the slope?

    Why do we always call it a slippery slope like we are sliding down it? We damned sure did slide down a slope to banning marriage. There was no gender specifications on marriage in most places and we slid down the slope to having those specifications. We slid down the slope to taking people's rights to enter into a civil contract with anyone of consenting age they wanted to away. We are climbing this slope to the next plateau, and if there is a further climb we need to make uphill so some consenting age polygamists can go make their life better by marrying each other then we should climb further because it sucks to be denied marriage and the benefits of family contracts and the protections your family gets from them simply because of some selfish religious nutbars.
    HEY, who are you calling Joe Redneck? The fact is most Americans are for legal rights for gays in a relationship but not for gay marriage, redneck or not.

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    Re: Gay Marriage Stirs Little Public Outcry in NM

    You know, i would never expect places like Iowa or NM to allow this before New Jersey, but that's politics for you. One asshole governor vetoing equal rights in a state that's 75% in favor. Where are the cries of "liberty dies" and "activist governor" from the right wing on this? Oh right, that logic only applies when it gets them what they want.

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    Re: Gay Marriage Stirs Little Public Outcry in NM

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    yes there is because its simply not true.

    was letting black legally be a person change the word? nope it was just granting equal rights. did letting women vote change the word? again nope. How about letting interracial couples marry? nope again
    Ok now you are just being stupid. Yes giving blacks and women the vote changed the world. If only white males voted we would be a Republican run country and the democrats would be very minor players. Whether you think that is good, bad or indifferent it did in fact change the world.

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    Re: Gay Marriage Stirs Little Public Outcry in NM

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    1.)Ok now you are just being stupid. Yes giving blacks and women the vote changed the world. If only white males voted we would be a Republican run country and the democrats would be very minor players. Whether you think that is good, bad or indifferent it did in fact change the world.
    more failed insults. we are not discussing the world im asking if it change the word voter? no it factually did not
    nice deflection, reframming and moving of the goal post but it failed, my points stand and your previous post was wrong.
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    Re: Gay Marriage Stirs Little Public Outcry in NM

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    more failed insults. we are not discussing the world im asking if it change the word voter? no it factually did not
    nice deflection, reframming and moving of the goal post but it failed, my points stand and your previous post was wrong.
    My mistake, I thought you said world not word. You know you're not a lot of fun to debate, such an angry young man.

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    Re: Gay Marriage Stirs Little Public Outcry in NM

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Personally I don't care much about the gay marriage issue one way or the other but it does raise a question. If gays can marry who or what is next, should we start with making polygamy legal? If anyone can marry anyone why can't anyone marry multiple people? Why not one man and two women or even two women and a man or..... use your imagination. Once you start messing around with "marriage" where does it end?
    If you make heterosexual marriage acceptable, soon pedophilia will be acceptable. Slippery slope, man.
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    Re: Gay Marriage Stirs Little Public Outcry in NM

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If you make heterosexual marriage acceptable, soon pedophilia will be acceptable. Slippery slope, man.
    And this guy actually flies a plane?

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    Re: Gay Marriage Stirs Little Public Outcry in NM

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    My mistake, I thought you said world not word. You know you're not a lot of fun to debate, such an angry young man.
    no problem mistakes happen, lord knows ive made my share. Admitting it shows integrity


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