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    Re: Union Square ‘I hate white people’ beating victim dies; suspect in court.

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    There is no spike in "white racial crime."

    There are roughly 50 felony assaults in NYC every day. One mentally disturbed black man punching a random white man is not indicative of a trend.
    Why do you classify this man as "mentally disturbed" but if it were a white man, that punched a black man on the streets of NYC, and then said he hated black people, you'd be calling him a racist....Why the difference? Is it because you see the black man as an eternal victim regardless of the crime he commits?
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    Re: Union Square ‘I hate white people’ beating victim dies; suspect in court.

    Black on white crime is completely out of control, and the media doesn't care.

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    Re: Union Square ‘I hate white people’ beating victim dies; suspect in court.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Black on white crime is completely out of control, and the media doesn't care.
    I'd like to see some statistics that it's worse than it ever was.

    Has anyone noticed how the righty blogosphere suddenly started to care after the Trayvon Martin thing? It's almost like they're trying to justify something....


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    Re: Union Square ‘I hate white people’ beating victim dies; suspect in court.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the great recession has adversely impacted those of color the most
    as a minority person who can't get ahead, who sees others like him in a similar circumstance, while perceiving majority individuals to be doing ok
    all that person can see is black and white
    he isn't looking deep enough at the situation to assess that maybe the choices the average white person makes is not as self destructive as those choices made by him and his minority cohort
    that would require insight and a willingness to engage in true introspection. it is much easier to blame someone else for our self inflicted problems

    and this is not a uniquely black thing. white trash will usually blame blacks and the welfare they receive for the inferior circumstances they face in their lives
    notice that neither under-performing group will take ownership for their own plight
    So what is the difference inhow poverty is handled today tan how it was handled during the depression?

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    Re: Union Square ‘I hate white people’ beating victim dies; suspect in court.

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    There is no spike in "white racial crime."

    There are roughly 50 felony assaults in NYC every day. One mentally disturbed black man punching a random white man is not indicative of a trend.
    Did you see somewhere in a report the suspect is mentally disturbed?

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    Re: Union Square ‘I hate white people’ beating victim dies; suspect in court.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why do you classify this man as "mentally disturbed" but if it were a white man, that punched a black man on the streets of NYC, and then said he hated black people, you'd be calling him a racist....Why the difference? Is it because you see the black man as an eternal victim regardless of the crime he commits?
    Some folks don't seem to be able to wrap their head around the possibility that black folks can be racist. As if it is a "white's only," kind of thing. That attitude, in and of itself, is racist if you ask me.

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    Re: Union Square ‘I hate white people’ beating victim dies; suspect in court.

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    The recession has not caused an increase in violent crime, especially in NYC. The number of violent crimes in NYC has dropped by 30% since 2001.
    you might find this an interesting read to account for the cause in the drop in crime rate

    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...ed=0CDwQrQMwCA

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    Re: Union Square ‘I hate white people’ beating victim dies; suspect in court.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'd like to see some statistics that it's worse than it ever was.

    Has anyone noticed how the righty blogosphere suddenly started to care after the Trayvon Martin thing? It's almost like they're trying to justify something....
    The Zimmerman case brought home the realization that White on Black crime (actually Hispanic in this case) is being far more publicized that any other racial crimes. When the US President got involved, without recognizing the real violence elsewhere, was people realized that there was a great deal of bias in the media, and from the President himself.

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    Re: Union Square ‘I hate white people’ beating victim dies; suspect in court.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why do you classify this man as "mentally disturbed" but if it were a white man, that punched a black man on the streets of NYC, and then said he hated black people, you'd be calling him a racist....Why the difference?
    There isn't one.

    Both blacks and whites can be racist, as in hold irrational hatred of someone based on the color of their skin. This is not a mutually exclusive category with "mentally disturbed."

    So: If a white person in Union Square shouted "I hate black people," and assaulted the first black person he saw, I would also say "the actions of one mentally disturbed individual do not indicate an increase in black-on-white crime."

    But thanks for making all sorts of assumptions that don't disprove my point.

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    Re: Union Square ‘I hate white people’ beating victim dies; suspect in court.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I hope they lock this guy up and throw away the key...The larger question I have is why the spike in black on white racial crime lately?
    Perhaps because of Trayvon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Some folks don't seem to be able to wrap their head around the possibility that black folks can be racist. As if it is a "white's only," kind of thing. That attitude, in and of itself, is racist if you ask me.
    I'd stop just short of saying blacks cannot be racist is a widespread view but in my experience, "prevalent" comes to mind and it's whites who have this view as much as any other race.
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