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    Re: Adopted girl says mother forced her to dig her own grave

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Since you totally missed my point, it could only mean you're just tryong to start some ****.
    Care to elaborate on your "point?" Because all I saw was deflection and blame.


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    Re: Adopted girl says mother forced her to dig her own grave

    His point was that the 'libbos' are to blame, just as they are to blame for everything. He has no point beyond that.
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    Re: Adopted girl says mother forced her to dig her own grave

    Sounds like that mother took a page from Boss Keanes book from Cool Hand Luke.


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    Re: Adopted girl says mother forced her to dig her own grave

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Some things are more a slippery slope than others.

    To involve (a supposed) government entity in judging who should or should not procreate, and levy a $5000 fee to do so, you are advocating an elitist society that would be doomed for collapse. Not only that, but to prevent couples from procreating because they don't meet those judgemental standards would require enforced sterilization.

    Invoking Godwin here.....
    OK, since the current system is working so well, I guess I'll have to call my people off and solve a different planet's problems.

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    Re: Adopted girl says mother forced her to dig her own grave

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    OK, since the current system is working so well, I guess I'll have to call my people off and solve a different planet's problems.
    I didn't say the current system was working well, but there are other options besides judging people and imposing fees.
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    Re: Adopted girl says mother forced her to dig her own grave

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    I didn't say the current system was working well, but there are other options besides judging people and imposing fees.
    OK, what is your solution? You were willing to read mine (even if you didn't agree) so I'll read yours with interest.

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    Re: Adopted girl says mother forced her to dig her own grave

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    These sort of illegal arrangements need to be cracked down on. These children are at risk. If you read the whole Reuters report, you'll see a story about a boy being "re-homed" in another state with a pedophile.

    If governments are going to have a say in who gets to adopt (which they do), they should be looking at these "under the table" adoptions. If these kids were adopted internationally (which many were), they were OKed by the Departments of State and Homeland Security. Yet once they get in the country, the government turns a blind eye.

    I find it disturbing that someone who is pro-life seems to think that this is about small government. Do you even care about the kids' welfare, or are they on their own after birth?
    Well, you certainly make a whole lot of assumption about me for asking a simple question don't you? Look, I can agree that if we are to allow government to say what, or who is ok to adopt in an international sense then the onus is on them to vet the prospective parent/parents fully to ensure that the child is going to a good home.

    But in a limited sense I think that we should be focusing on American children first...This story is about a horribly unqualified parent torturing a child, and should face the harshest of penalties for her actions. Is it a perfect world? Hell no. But, 'government' is not always the answer to everything.
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    Re: Adopted girl says mother forced her to dig her own grave

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Care to elaborate on your "point?" Because all I saw was deflection and blame.
    Of course that's all you saw. It's all you wanted to see.
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    Re: Adopted girl says mother forced her to dig her own grave

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, you certainly make a whole lot of assumption about me for asking a simple question don't you? Look, I can agree that if we are to allow government to say what, or who is ok to adopt in an international sense then the onus is on them to vet the prospective parent/parents fully to ensure that the child is going to a good home.

    But in a limited sense I think that we should be focusing on American children first...This story is about a horribly unqualified parent torturing a child, and should face the harshest of penalties for her actions. Is it a perfect world? Hell no. But, 'government' is not always the answer to everything.
    It's a part of a whole investigation into "re-homing" which occurs under the radar, it's not one story about one kid. Even so, child safety is a place for the "government" to get involved.

    And these are American children. According to the law, they become American citizens when the plane lands. It also is happening to children who were born and adopted within the US. By any measure, they are Americans.


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    Re: Adopted girl says mother forced her to dig her own grave

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Of course that's all you saw. It's all you wanted to see.
    Your first thought was to blame Libbos and deflect to guns. If you had an actual point, now's your chance to clarify it.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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