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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Calls Special Session on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Not completely true actually.
    Semi-related question:

    Is it right for America to force Christian rules into law of the nation? Jesus talked about more than just the gays, after all. (wait, did he say anything about the gays at all?)

    Mandatory tithes, divorce illegal, etc?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Calls Special Session on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    yep as the SSC cases on this matter have also determined
    sorry that hurts your poor feelings you want to practice discrimination and dont care about equal rights
    Who said it hurt my feelings?
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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Calls Special Session on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Semi-related question:

    Is it right for America to force Christian rules into law of the nation? Jesus talked about more than just the gays, after all. (wait, did he say anything about the gays at all?)

    Mandatory tithes, divorce illegal, etc?
    Seeing as it was the intent of the founders for this to be a Christian Nation, yes. The Establishment Clause was meant for denominations as everyone identified with Christianity at the time. It was understood the religion was Christianity, they weren't going to adopt a national denomination however so they could avoid what happened in England.
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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Calls Special Session on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Seeing as it was the intent of the founders for this to be a Christian Nation, yes. The Establishment Clause was meant for denominations as everyone identified with Christianity at the time. It was understood the religion was Christianity, they weren't going to adopt a national denomination however so they could avoid what happened in England.
    Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Calls Special Session on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
    Yes the Government, not the country. Big difference.
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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Calls Special Session on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Yes the Government, not the country. Big difference.
    semantics.

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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Calls Special Session on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    semantics.
    No, not semantics, fact.
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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Calls Special Session on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Yes the Government, not the country. Big difference.
    And here we are, talking about how the government should treat its citizens, yes?

    You still get to be a Christian and think all sorts of "Christian" thoughts. The government, by your own admission, was not intended to do that by the very founding fathers you just invoked.

    "It was understood" that the establishment clause meant Christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Calls Special Session on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I don't think he realizes that if he does this, Hawaii will literally sink into the ocean.
    I hope not, my daughter is on her honeymoon over there right now.
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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Calls Special Session on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I hope not, my daughter is on her honeymoon over there right now.
    She can't swim?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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