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Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

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@MyFoxOrlando: Police say a weapon was “present” during the #GeorgeZimmerman incident in Lake Mary, FL, but NOT “involved.”

The wife claimed he had his hand on his gun, that sounds involved to me.
 
@MyFoxOrlando: Police say a weapon was “present” during the #GeorgeZimmerman incident in Lake Mary, FL, but NOT “involved.”

It's consistent with past behavior on his part so I am not surprised to hear it. Seems more likely it was true than not.
 
It's consistent with past behavior on his part so I am not surprised to hear it. Seems more likely it was true than not.

I had no problem believing it either, until I saw on CNN that the Police stated no gun was involved, and then saw that his wife had changed her story.

I've been on the wrong end of a pissed off woman before, and because of that experience, I can believe she may have said some things on the 911 call that were not exactly correct, in an attempt to get her soon to be ex-husband in trouble.
 
@MyFoxOrlando: Police say a weapon was “present” during the #GeorgeZimmerman incident in Lake Mary, FL, but NOT “involved.”

Would you or would you not feel threatened if someone who was clearly upset with you had a gun in their hands? It's presence is what is relevant not whether or not he took a shot at someone. Right?
 
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Starting to sound more like "Angry woman makes **** up, gets scared and recants part of story."


How very not surprising.


Of course I wouldn't be too shocked if it was true either. Although I repeatedly said I didn't think Zimmerman would be convicted of murdering Martin under the totality of evidence, I also said several times that he wasn't the brightest star in the sky either.
 
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Reminds me of OJ. He might get some prison time over this.

Exactly - I thought of the same thing. Karma will get you eventually.
 
I had no problem believing it either, until I saw on CNN that the Police stated no gun was involved, and then saw that his wife had changed her story.

I've been on the wrong end of a pissed off woman before, and because of that experience, I can believe she may have said some things on the 911 call that were not exactly correct, in an attempt to get her soon to be ex-husband in trouble.

unfortunately that is true. Some women would do that. But statistically women often "change their story" after calling because they fear further aggression on his part or they don't want to hurt him. Women are nurturing by I nature, it makes us our own worst enemy sometimes.
 
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His wife must have put on a hoodie and threatened him with a bag of deadly Skittles.
She told interviewers that Zimmerman feels that he is invincible since his acquittal.
Police report that they have taken his precious gun...how long ya think he's gonna last without it?
 
Would you or would you not feel threatened if someone who was clearly upset with you had a gun in their hands? It's presence is what is relevant not whether or not he took a shot at someone. Right?


If it was in his hand momentarily, while pointed at the floor, because he was putting in his luggage to take out to the car.... no, I would not automatically feel threatened.

Per most state's laws, simply having a gun in your hand is not necessarily a crime of assault or threatening act, unless you add menacing behavior or verbal threats to same, or POINT the gun at someone, or commit another crime while armed.
 
Would you or would you not feel threatened if someone who was clearly upset with you had a gun in their hands? It's presence is what is relevant not whether or not he took a shot at someone. Right?

Of course I would. But now she's saying it wasn't. So what do I believe? What she said when she was hysterical and pissed off at him and trying to get him in trouble? Or what she's saying now?

The only reason I even got into this thread, was when I saw that what everyone thought, including me, was wrong.
 
If it was in his hand momentarily, while pointed at the floor, because he was putting in his luggage to take out to the car.... no, I would not automatically feel threatened.

Per most state's laws, simply having a gun in your hand is not necessarily a crime of assault or threatening act, unless you add menacing behavior or verbal threats to same, or POINT the gun at someone, or commit another crime while armed.

As a women. If a man was angry at me, especially if his ego was involved because I was leaving him, I would feel threatened. I understand your reasoning here but I do think it is different for women.


Regardless, his language was threatening. That is if she has provided an accurate account of what he said.
 
Of course I would. But now she's saying it wasn't. So what do I believe? What she said when she was hysterical and pissed off at him and trying to get him in trouble? Or what she's saying now?

The only reason I even got into this thread, was when I saw that what everyone thought, including me, was wrong.

Well once again. No one will ever know for certain unless some else can provide more objective evidence. It is not uncommon for women to back down though. Even if she was wrong about the gun, the menacing behavior is telling.
 
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The asshole punched his father-in-law in the face possibly breaking his nose. It doesn't matter if she pleads to let him go and claims him to be an angel ...that's assault.
He' going to jail.

And I'm fine with that. IF it's true. This whole story has been just another example of the media and the public jumping to conclusions.
 
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The asshole punched his father-in-law in the face possibly breaking his nose. It doesn't matter if she pleads to let him go and claims him to be an angel ...that's assault.
He' going to jail.

They're not pressing charges and he was not arrested.
Maybe a new agency can patch together something racial to cause public outrage to force the police to arrest him again. Someone call NBC quick!
 
Well once again. No one will ever know for certain unless some else can provide more objective evidence. It is not uncommon for women to back down though. Even if she was wrong about the gun, the menacing behavior is telling.

That I'm sure is true, but not with my wife... it's one of the reasons I love her so much (and am scared to death of her as well).
 
That I'm sure is true, but not with my wife... it's one of the reasons I love her so much (and am scared to death of her as well).

:lol: My man is in the same predicament. I was about 5'3" and just broke 100lbs in high school and stood up to football players who were bullying kids. I'm definitely trouble.
 
Zimmerman again? One of these days that guy is going to kill somebody.
 
As a women. If a man was angry at me, especially if his ego was involved because I was leaving him, I would feel threatened. I understand your reasoning here but I do think it is different for women.


Regardless, his language was threatening. That is if she has provided an accurate account of what he said.


Her feelings are irrelevant to whether his alleged (now recanted) having a gun in hand was a crime.


Anyone can feel threatened... it isn't a crime unless reasonable menacing behavior was involved, along with opportunity and ability to carry out same.


Now I don't know exactly what happened, I wasn't there and the story keeps changing... I'm just saying that a gun's presence doesn't necessarily mean squat, unless it is 'brandished' in a menacing manner. Granted my background is a bit unusual but I've had quite a few heated arguments with other men while we were both armed, without feeling like I was in peril of being shot.
 
:lol: My man is in the same predicament. I was about 5'3" and just broke 100lbs in high school and stood up to football players who were bullying kids. I'm definitely trouble.

That fits perfectly with what I have imagined you to look like. :wink2:
 
:lol: My man is in the same predicament. I was about 5'3" and just broke 100lbs in high school and stood up to football players who were bullying kids. I'm definitely trouble.

Toughest lady I ever knew was 5'1" tall. She married a guy 6'2", damn her. (I'm 5'8".) Her son, 6' tall, often had the pleasure of looking at her eye-to-eye as she stood on a CHAIR to get in his face. Chased him down the street in her car one night when he stormed out of the house at 17. She'd have run his ass OVER!!!! I have absolutely no doubt.

She took no **** and gave no quarter. :rofl Loved that gal. Patsy, I miss ya'.
 
Her feelings are irrelevant to whether his alleged (now recanted) having a gun in hand was a crime.


Anyone can feel threatened... it isn't a crime unless reasonable menacing behavior was involved, along with opportunity and ability to carry out same.


Now I don't know exactly what happened, I wasn't there and the story keeps changing... I'm just saying that a gun's presence doesn't necessarily mean squat, unless it is 'brandished' in a menacing manner. Granted my background is a bit unusual but I've had quite a few heated arguments with other men while we were both armed, without feeling like I was in peril of being shot.

From what I heard on the tape in the OP the weapon was never pulled, he just had his hand on it...But the punch in the nose would be assault, and domestic violence....Say bye, bye to the gun permit.
 
Her feelings are irrelevant to whether his alleged (now recanted) having a gun in hand was a crime.


Anyone can feel threatened... it isn't a crime unless reasonable menacing behavior was involved, along with opportunity and ability to carry out same.


Now I don't know exactly what happened, I wasn't there and the story keeps changing... I'm just saying that a gun's presence doesn't necessarily mean squat, unless it is 'brandished' in a menacing manner. .

I don't disagree with that. I got a little sidetracked trying to understand that if she overreacted how I could sympathize with that. It's a serious thing to get wrong, if she did, but I get it.

I also agree that we don't know but we are free to speculate here. I certainly am not committed to any understanding yet but I do have an opinion based on his past actions and what is known so far.

Granted my background is a bit unusual but I've had quite a few heated arguments with other men while we were both armed, without feeling like I was in peril of being shot

Ummm...yeah. I this qualifies your perspective on this as "special".
 
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