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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I don't disagree with that in theory and understand the inequity here. But men are just bigger and stronger and because of that have a greater obligation towards self control because the outcome posses greater risks. I happen to practice the ethic you endorse but on a larger scale I have to promote more self control on the mans side.



    I don't disagree but where does personal responsibility come into play. If you are an abused man or woman and you just take it you have some culpability.

    Let me just make one thing clear. Women are gonna hate me for this. But I think a lot of women are bat **** crazy. But still think that men are obligated to back down.
    What you are failing to comprehend is that a lot of women don't allow the man to back down. The more he backs off the more pissed off and violent they get.

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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    So if a female is flailing away at you and flinging dishes at you you should, as a self controlled male, just stand there and be a target? I've seen more than my share of guys with lumps on their head for daring to turn their back and walk out as "sweetie pie" bashed him with a telephone or a kitchen knife or, in one memorable case, a dildo.

    Men are more likely to understand that when an angry man turns around and walks away, it is because he is at his limit and pushing it right then is a bad idea.


    It's a pity we can't seem to explain to women that after an hour of verbal/emotional abuse and a red-faced man tries to leave the house, that is NOT a good time to throw blunt objects at his noggin...

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    Re: George Zimmerman in Custody After Gun Incident

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    Where else would it be? She initially reported he had his hand on it while threatening her. She has since recanted I believe so it all becomes moot now.
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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Yes I do. But men are stronger and you have to control your physical selves because it is easier for you to overpower and do harm.
    Yet it is easier for the woman to call the police, allege threats/acts of violence and have your unhappy man ass barred from entering the once blissful household.
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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Are you as adamant about personal responsibility when discussing this from the perspective of abused women? Observing your posts to this point, I would say it does not appear to be the case.
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    I actually am yes. But my first instinct is to protect against real physical harm. The reality it that you can do more harm then me. The woman is just as responsible for controlling herself but if she loses it a man needs to be able to just leave. I had a man throw me against a wall and shove me into a shower and my response was to quietly walk to the phone and call the police. I tried to calm him down and he wouldn't have it. My only recourse was to call the police because he couldn't stop himself. He was very jealous and felt threatened when there was no need.

    Is a man obligated to back down all the time? How about when his spouse attacks him with blunt objects capable of causing serious injury, or weapons capable of inflicting critical injury? This happens more often than most people realize, as noted in studies linked to by the article above.
    I don't doubt this. If a man can stop her without loosing control and really hurting her he certainly has a right too. I would say using your physical strength beyond what was required to remove her as a threat. Meaning, taking her weapon.
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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    So if a female is flailing away at you and flinging dishes at you you should, as a self controlled male, just stand there and be a target? I've seen more than my share of guys with lumps on their head for daring to turn their back and walk out as "sweetie pie" bashed him with a telephone or a kitchen knife or, in one memorable case, a dildo.
    Dildo !! That's hysterical. People are frkn nuts. If you can stop her from hurting you long enough to leave. That is the best course of action in my opinion. As to the question of who is in the wrong. If the female initiates the violence, then clearly she is the one in the wrong. But for a man to overpower her and do anything more than remove the threat and live is unwise.
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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    As am I. I am simply pointing out that in a divorce case having criminal allegations, in the form of pending charges from the state, can be a motivation for one party to make such allegations against the other. Why assume that anything illegal actually happened?
    I haven't. I am of the "opinion" based on what I know of Z that it is possible not that anything illegal happened but that he was threatening and that a fire arm was present.
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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's no excuse fot a ho to go crazy. If she don't want a dude to go upside her head, she needs to behave.
    You're not serious.
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    Re: George Zimmerman in Custody After Gun Incident

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If ya can't put him in jail, kill him in the media and maybe someone will get lucky and off the guy. Sounds about right.
    Well that tactic sure does seem to work for the pro-lifers.
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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Dildo !! That's hysterical. People are frkn nuts. If you can stop her from hurting you long enough to leave. That is the best course of action in my opinion. As to the question of who is in the wrong. If the female initiates the violence, then clearly she is the one in the wrong. But for a man to overpower her and do anything more than remove the threat and live is unwise.
    As I said before, many women make the simple process of leaving difficult. They end up so incredibly focused on whatever they see as the problem that when he tries to leave she just ramps things up all the more. There are guys like that too but it happens FAR more with women.

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