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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Like I said, I appreciate that how you measure feeling threatening is different and valid for you. I am pointing out that as a women we draw that line in a different place because it exists in a different place. It is out of necessity not sensitivity. You have to stop them BEFORE they get mad enough to act rashly or loose control because once they do you are defenseless. Even if the gun was not the threat, if he was saying and doing what she claims he was trying to intimidate her with threatening behavior. Men do that. Not all, but it is a male behavior.

    1- the bolded line. I have to think that most women don't think this way, because I have more commonly seen the opposite behavior... IE a man is already red-faced angry, TRYING to walk away because he fears his own temper, and the woman pursues him, yelling out the most vile, insulting and belittling things she can think of as if she WANTS him to lose his mind and all self-restraint...

    2 - the underlined; It is not a male behavior, it is a human behavior. I have been on the receiving end of females attempting to use threatening behavior and/or violence to have things their way, and I assure you it is not limited to one gender, and it is just as ugly regardless of who is doing it.

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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I remember how the blacks in my workcenter at Pearl Harbor whooped and celebrated when O.J. was declared innocent of murder. After all the times blacks have been arrested and jailed - and sometimes executed - on trumped-up charges, I really couldn't blame them, as disgusted as I was with the verdict.

    But time wounds all heels (as it surely did with O.J.) and as soon as the jury declared Zimmerman not guilty, I was sure he'd be in trouble with the law again. I just didn't figure it would be so soon.

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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    that decision, while exhibiting less than stellar judgment, was not illegal.
    Point is though, he followed him because he assumed him a threat and that was considered good enough. His judgement. Why is hers being questioned?
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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    How can GZ both have been taken at his word and charged with second degree murder?
    Taken at his word by his supporters regarding the legitimacy of his judgement that TM was enough of a threat to follow with a gun.
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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Point is though, he followed him because he assumed him a threat and that was considered good enough. His judgement. Why is hers being questioned?

    Perhaps because she has already recanted part of her accusation.

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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    1- the bolded line. I have to think that most women don't think this way, because I have more commonly seen the opposite behavior... IE a man is already red-faced angry, TRYING to walk away because he fears his own temper, and the woman pursues him, yelling out the most vile, insulting and belittling things she can think of as if she WANTS him to lose his mind and all self-restraint...

    2 - the underlined; It is not a male behavior, it is a human behavior. I have been on the receiving end of females attempting to use threatening behavior and/or violence to have things their way, and I assure you it is not limited to one gender, and it is just as ugly regardless of who is doing it.


    Well then brother we need to talk about the kind of women you are spending your time with.
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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Perhaps because she has already recanted part of her accusation.
    Abused women often recount their accusations.
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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Point is though, he followed him because he assumed him a threat and that was considered good enough. His judgement. Why is hers being questioned?
    Perhaps because the last accusation that the state of Foriduh made against GZ was very expensive and yet not able to command a guilty verdict. It pays to investigate fully, examine physical evidence and witness statements carefully. Often many false claims are made related to a divorce case and she had been charged with and plead guilty to perjury as well. Knowing who to believe in a he said/she said case is not as easy as you might assume.
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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Perhaps because the last accusation that the state of Foriduh made against GZ was very expensive and yet not able to command a guilty verdict. It pays to investigate fully, examine physical evidence and witness statements carefully. Often many false claims are made related to a divorce case and she had been charged with and plead guilty to perjury as well. Knowing who to believe in a he said/she said case is not as easy as you might assume.
    i actually do not assume. I have an opinion based on what is known now etc....but will wait until more information is provided to commit to anything.
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    re: Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Taken at his word by his supporters regarding the legitimacy of his judgement that TM was enough of a threat to follow with a gun.
    The jury consisted of GZ's supporters? Was the dispatcher also fooled? It is not a crime to report suspicious activity, or to follow someone, especially after the dispatcher asks you to report any changes in the "suspects" behavior.

    Dispatcher

    Just let me know if he does anything, ok?

    Zimmerman

    (unclear) See if you can get an officer over here.

    Dispatcher

    Yeah we've got someone on the way, just let me know if this guy does anything else.
    Transcript of George Zimmerman 911 Call - by Oliver Closoff - Newsvine
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