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Police detain George Zimmerman after 911 call from wife [W:265]

Re: George Zimmerman in Custody After Gun Incident

The difference between you and me is that I don't consider being falsely accused "running into trouble" or "behaving in an unacceptable way."

You don't know yet if her accusations are false. You are jumping to conclusions.
 
Re: George Zimmerman in Custody After Gun Incident

Um if you read the articles the claims were not substantiated by police and they said they found no evidence to support the story.
The jury is still out on that. There are still multiple accounts floating about ...

  • Chicago Tribune

    O'Mara confirmed Zimmerman had his gun on him. "He was armed ... He put his hand (on the gun) to make sure it was holstered," he said. "He knows how to carry responsibly."

    Police initially took away Zimmerman's gun, but O'Mara said it was later returned to his client.

  • USA Today

    Deputy Police Chief Colin Morgan said officers did not recover a gun, and Bracknell said Shellie Zimmerman later dropped her claim that a gun was involved.
 
Re: Boy just can stay out of trouble

And, if those of you--yes you--who were ready to lynch him were totally honest you would admit that it's "because a white dude killed a black dude"

Oh, non-brother, let's not attempt to re-tell my opinion when I've already given it.

Over-hype for sure!

Admittedly, I didn't think George Zimmerman was innocent, but I certainly didn't want to see him dead. What I wanted was a fair trial where all the evidence was presented and a fair verdict rendered. I got that. Until the guy started mindlessly injecting himself back in the public eye I'd put him out of my memory.
 
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There are several people who should be ashamed of themselves. They all jumped to conclusions without all the facts - what else is new. The story has since changed. No gun was involved at all. She sensationalized the incident but for what purpose?

Ashamed of what? For having an opinion on a storyline based on the information presented? I don't think so...

All folks seem to be saying is Zimmerman appears to be over exposing himself in the public eye or making some questionable inter-personal relationship decisions post-trial. Moreover, if the media reports were true I'd say it was very valid for people to question his character post-trial. But it would appear his estranged wife lied about event at her home. For his sake, I hope she does end up with additional counts of perjury against her. It would certainly make his life much easier.
 
Re: George Zimmerman in Custody After Gun Incident

About as much relevance as belly button bacteria. At least try to stay on topic?

My bad. What's the topic again?

Ockham said:
If ya can't put him in jail, kill him in the media and maybe someone will get lucky and off the guy. Sounds about right.

I mean by your post I quoted the topic must be "present an irrelevant hypothetical that allows you to play the victim card." Playing the victim isn't my strong suit so I'll definitely have to work on it. :lol:
 
Re: George Zimmerman in Custody After Gun Incident

It is not about his guilt or innocence in this particular instance. Rather it is a question of his nature. If someone has repeated incidents where he is accused of violent or hyper-aggressive behavior, it is highly likely that there is at least some truth to it IMO. He seems to get himself into a lot of trouble because he can not control his temper.

You can't use a domestic dispute as a means to judge a persons tendencies. I was once arrested for a list of charges a mile long, including kidnapping and assault with a deadly weapon, all stemming from a domestic dispute that could have gotten me 10+ years in prison. Once she realized the ramifications of the false accusations she made, she came forward (6 months and thousands of dollars later) and all the charges were dropped. It's still to this day, the only time I have ever been arrested for anything, or spent any time in jail.

To judge me based on that arrest and those accusations, would be a monumental misjudgment of the kind of person I truly am... Unfortunately, relationships can bring out the darker side of many people, that they didn't even know existed.

Give that some thought.
 
Re: George Zimmerman in Custody After Gun Incident

The jury is still out on that. There are still multiple accounts floating about ...

  • Chicago Tribune

    O'Mara confirmed Zimmerman had his gun on him. "He was armed ... He put his hand (on the gun) to make sure it was holstered," he said. "He knows how to carry responsibly."

    Police initially took away Zimmerman's gun, but O'Mara said it was later returned to his client.

  • USA Today

    Deputy Police Chief Colin Morgan said officers did not recover a gun, and Bracknell said Shellie Zimmerman later dropped her claim that a gun was involved.

How would O'Mara know? I heard him say yesterday he was no longer representing Zimmerman.
 
No. Because real men are still real men even without their guns.

I believe our soldiers are real men and they need their guns on the battlefield.
 
Re: George Zimmerman in Custody After Gun Incident

I mean by your post I quoted the topic must be "present an irrelevant hypothetical that allows you to play the victim card." Playing the victim isn't my strong suit so I'll definitely have to work on it. :lol:

Hypothetical - no. It's already happened once... media outrage sparks pressure on police and prosecutors who have no case and little evidence files charges due to claims of racism. If it worked once, why not again was my point.
 
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You can't use a domestic dispute as a means to judge a persons tendencies. I was once arrested for a list of charges a mile long, including kidnapping and assault with a deadly weapon, all stemming from a domestic dispute that could have gotten me 10+ years in prison. Once she realized the ramifications of the false accusations she made, she came forward (6 months and thousands of dollars later) and all the charges were dropped. It's still to this day, the only time I have ever been arrested for anything, or spent any time in jail.

To judge me based on that arrest and those accusations, would be a monumental misjudgment of the kind of person I truly am... Unfortunately, relationships can bring out the darker side of many people, that they didn't even know existed.

Give that some thought.

Well, honestly if it had been maybe one instance or perhaps multiple incidents with just one woman I would be less inclined. But multiple incidents with multiple women along with comments made regarding his temper from others who know him and of course the TM incident I am inclined to believe their is an issue. Of course, I don't know the man. But if video comes back confirming he behaved as he was originally accused by Shellie, I would not be remotely surprised. Until then I have an opinion, but reserve judgment.
 
Re: Boy just can stay out of trouble

Oh, non-brother, let's not attempt to re-tell my opinion when I've already given it.

Don't do to others and othes won't do to you...non-brother...
 
Re: George Zimmerman in Custody After Gun Incident

Hypothetical - no. It's already happened once... media outrage sparks pressure on police and prosecutors who have no case and little evidence files charges due to claims of racism. If it worked once, why not again was my point.

It already happened? You mean Zimmerman was killed? Boy you sure think you know how to move the goal posts. But you don't. All I have to do is replay your original post where you said how someone would off Zimmerman due to media hype and flush goes this "It's already happened once" post of yours.

Because no, that didn't already happen in this case. Then when I posted about how it actually did happen with media hyping up someone to kill someone, you dismissed it. Go figure.
 
Re: George Zimmerman in Custody After Gun Incident

You don't know yet if her accusations are false. You are jumping to conclusions.

I don't feel the need to comment as if they were true. I simply assume they are false (innocent) until they are proven true (guilty).
 
Re: George Zimmerman in Custody After Gun Incident

It already happened? You mean Zimmerman was killed? Boy you sure think you know how to move the goal posts. But you don't. All I have to do is replay your original post where you said how someone would off Zimmerman due to media hype and flush goes this "It's already happened once" post of yours.
Yes one was sarcasm the other was not. Of course you already know what already happened was public outrage forcing a trial which had a bad outcome for those who forced it.

Because no, that didn't already happen in this case. Then when I posted about how it actually did happen with media hyping up someone to kill someone, you dismissed it.
Perhaps you didn't develop the idea well enough or I skimmed through, don't take it personally.
 
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