• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Syria 'welcomes' proposal to hand over control of chemical weapons [W:122]

I have read, and agree to abide by the Debate Politics Forums rules...
There is no "want" in Obama to fail.
It is WANT him to fail 24/7/365...
Obama has failed, in everything he has touched.
'Failed in everything he has touched' speaks for itself
his Syria misadventure will end in failure as well.
How many American Dead so far? How much money on Weapons?
The best that could have happened would have been for congress to voted no and for him to have gone and sat down in a corner and pouted for a day or two.
Congress will not need to vote due to our threat. of force.
The entire Syria crisis is one that Obama manufactured with his mouth and his decisions to appoint two incompetents to head his foreign policy team.
I'm sorry you're upset at Obama for the way he handled the genocide performed by ASSAD.
Nobody from the right had anything to do with it.
To do with what? TRying to stop murderous genocide with chemicals. That is factually wrong, if you check the congressional comments. I'm proud of my Congressman Kinzinger for standing against this tyrannical despot who would gas his own people, though his father was much worse.
 
Last edited:
There is no "want" in Obama to fail.

Obama has failed, in everything he has touched. At the end of the day, whenever that will be, his Syria misadventure will end in failure as well. The best that could have happened would have been for congress to voted no and for him to have gone and sat down in a corner and pouted for a day or two. The entire Syria crisis is one that Obama manufactured with his mouth and his decisions to appoint two incompetents to head his foreign policy team. Nobody from the right had anything to do with it.

Obama had NO control over the Arab Spring or Syria...
 
Well Sharon....Did he have control over the Speech he gave to the Muslim world?

You don't get the dynamic between most Muslims and their leadership... the social contract. They don't do town hall meetings.. they go to mosque.

What did he say in the speech he gave that you found offensive or unrealistic?

In a large part they are NOT ready for democratic process.
 
You don't get the dynamic between most Muslims and their leadership... the social contract. They don't do town hall meetings.. they go to mosque.

What did he say in the speech he gave that you found offensive or unrealistic?

In a large part they are NOT ready for democratic process.

Maybe a speech pointing that out to them.....that they weren't ready and wouldn't be for a long long time would have been more appropriate. This way they can never say they were lied to.
 
Maybe a speech pointing that out to them.....that they weren't ready and wouldn't be for a long long time would have been more appropriate. This way they can never say they were lied to.

Obama couldn't say they weren't ready.. and we can't choose their form of government or their leaders... Any person we promote would be perceived as just another US stooge.

The various factions in each country have to want peace MORE than we want it for them.
 
Let's add:




Good afternoon, ecofarm. :2wave:

Thanks so much for posting Don Henley's "Dirty Laundry" song. I haven't heard it in a while, and it's always been one of my favorites! :thanks: again! Very applicable to today's news! :thumbs:
 
There is no "want" in Obama to fail.

Obama has failed, in everything he has touched. At the end of the day, whenever that will be, his Syria misadventure will end in failure as well. The best that could have happened would have been for congress to voted no and for him to have gone and sat down in a corner and pouted for a day or two. The entire Syria crisis is one that Obama manufactured with his mouth and his decisions to appoint two incompetents to head his foreign policy team. Nobody from the right had anything to do with it.

The big winner is Putin and the big loser is Obama. Assad must be pleased as well.
 
What do you think international politics and policy is all about? What do you think Obama has been doing with Syria for the past two weeks? Dick waving....

How about cooperation for mutual benefit? How about prosperity? Taking such an antagonistic position helps no one and costs even this country far more than we'd benefit in return.

No one's claiming the Cold War isn't over and our President could turn around the relationship with Russia any time he wants to. Question is: When's he going to start working on that?

Many years ago... I get the Obama hatred. But it's gotten kind of old. Completely blocking out every single good thing he does for this country erases any chance for real criticism.
 
Careful, that is an astonishing bit of contortion you are doing there.

At my age I am long past CON-torting. I find it interesting for all the Cons hated the idea of 'war mongering' or 'face saving' missile attacks, depending on the hour, they seem to hate even more this has moved to reducing Assad's ability to use chemical weapons without military action.

Around here we have a saying- "You would bitch if'n we hung ya with a new rope" :lamo
 
Awfully good of Syria and im sure getting these weapons into international hands will go smoothly...
 
Many years ago... I get the Obama hatred. But it's gotten kind of old. Completely blocking out every single good thing he does for this country erases any chance for real criticism.

What Obama hatred? The man is dishonest and incompetent but no one has said they 'hate' him. If there is any 'hatred' it should be directed at the fools who voted for him.
 
At my age I am long past CON-torting. I find it interesting for all the Cons hated the idea of 'war mongering' or 'face saving' missile attacks, depending on the hour, they seem to hate even more this has moved to reducing Assad's ability to use chemical weapons without military action.

Around here we have a saying- "You would bitch if'n we hung ya with a new rope" :lamo

The whole situation wouldn't have been so poorly handled by this administration had Obama not let his mouth write a check he had no intention of cashing....He's a wuss, and the world knows it now....Thanks progressives for neutering the US.
 
Obama couldn't say they weren't ready.. and we can't choose their form of government or their leaders... Any person we promote would be perceived as just another US stooge.

The various factions in each country have to want peace MORE than we want it for them.

Well, they sure like to throw his words back up in his face. True we can't choose their form of government nor their leaders. But then we don't have to promote anything that deals with them. Nor give them any aid and not even in disasters. Until they are wittled down to the very remote and useless.
 
Well, they sure like to throw his words back up in his face. True we can't choose their form of government nor their leaders. But then we don't have to promote anything that deals with them. Nor give them any aid and not even in disasters. Until they are wittled down to the very remote and useless.

You sure don't get the Middle East...........
 
LOL !!!

" If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force one thing is clear, we want to seriously diminish the threat from Iraq's WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION PROGAM.."
Bill CLINTON 1998

Check me if I am wrong but wasnt it Rumsfield who actually said we know right where they are?? Yellow cake ring a bell. Maybe Clinton did not attack because the information wasnt true. Bush 2 could not wait to get us over there at the cost of 1 trillion dollars and a bunch of body bags. Do not try to pin that on Clinton it was Bushes decision to lie and to put our troops in harms way!!
 
Check me if I am wrong but wasnt it Rumsfield who actually said we know right where they are?? Yellow cake ring a bell. Maybe Clinton did not attack because the information wasnt true. Bush 2 could not wait to get us over there at the cost of 1 trillion dollars and a bunch of body bags. Do not try to pin that on Clinton it was Bushes decision to lie and to put our troops in harms way!!

You don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.
 
You sure don't get the Middle East...........

Oh I sure do get it and Trust me.....I have the Cure that is its Bane and Nightmare. But it would get worse, way worse before it got better. As then they would see all they believe in be taken apart piece by piece. Including that False Religion of theirs and their Morality. Anything and everything that they think is important.

See when their Clerics are hung, beat up, humiliated every single day 24/7. Their daughters are pimped out on every street corner in a major town, and they are all loaded onto drugs. Gangstered and beat on every single day 24/7. Knowing that should they open their mouth. That Someone might just pull a 357 and blow their head clean off. Just for looking Stupid. I think they will have finally got the message. When they learn that the rest of the world isn't going to back down or run away from them and that instead people are willing to put them into the ground. I think you will see a major change in their attitude towards wanting to live a full life.
 
Oh I sure do get it and Trust me.....I have the Cure that is its Bane and Nightmare. But it would get worse, way worse before it got better. As then they would see all they believe in be taken apart piece by piece. Including that False Religion of theirs and their Morality. Anything and everything that they think is important.

See when their Clerics are hung, beat up, humiliated every single day 24/7. Their daughters are pimped out on every street corner in a major town, and they are all loaded onto drugs. Gangstered and beat on every single day 24/7. Knowing that should they open their mouth. That Someone might just pull a 357 and blow their head clean off. Just for looking Stupid. I think they will have finally got the message. When they learn that the rest of the world isn't going to back down or run away from them and that instead people are willing to put them into the ground. I think you will see a major change in their attitude towards wanting to live a full life.

Of course it will get worse.. If their candidate loses, they riot..

They don't pimp their daughters on street corners.

Have you ever lived or visited any of these countries?
 
Of course it will get worse.. If their candidate loses, they riot..

They don't pimp their daughters on street corners.

Have you ever lived or visited any of these countries?


No not enmasse.....and not with the whole criminal world.

They don't deal with the Criminal element and bangers like we do. People who will make others disappear. People that will go after their family members and make it personal. Even with those that have nothing!

Like I said.....taken apart and down.....piece by piece. There would be no Clerics running around yelling for Jihad telling anybody what to do. That body hanging from a rope and the Mosques knocked down defaced and the Prophet mocked daily and nightly. Changes all that up. Which clearly you don't see happening now.

Only thing you ever hear of is Christian Churches get torched and their people beaten on. See that changes up things when the bullies are put on the other end, and they know for sure......its their ass that's done for.
 
The whole situation wouldn't have been so poorly handled by this administration had Obama not let his mouth write a check he had no intention of cashing....He's a wuss, and the world knows it now....Thanks progressives for neutering the US.

No what 'neutered' the UsofA is the same thing that neutered us after the fall of Saigon. We Americans can't stand a long bloody frustrating war with no clear national security issue with a constant flow of coffins from a land most Americans could givahoot about. A constant false hope of victory just around the corner. Light at the end of the tunnel and all that crap.

We have entered a new 'Vietnam Syndrome' period thanks to the ill conceived neo-con debacle in Iraq. Thanks to BushII we are going to have a period, for good or ill we shall see, where we refuse to lift a finger to help people struggling to be free...

I guess we will have to disagree on what poorly handled means- even with an uncooperative Congress President Obama got Russia to quit 'defending' Syria avoiding what many partisan pundits just KNEW was the start of WWIII, got Assad to agree to being rummaged through to remove a potent weapon from his arsenal- and we ALL know how much dictators fighting for survival love being rummaged and stripped of a weapon. :roll:

And he got this done without thousands of dead Americans or a regional war.

What the world knows is unlike the strutting and snickering wannabee cowboy of the past Con administration, President Obama was willing to work the diplomatic side of our power to effect change. He didn't throw down 'with us or against us' crap assed speeches that included a long hard stare at Europe after rebuffing them in Afghanistan.

So your wuss whine looks a lot like a pile of grapes that never sweetened up... :peace
 
Check me if I am wrong but wasnt it Rumsfield who actually said we know right where they are?? Yellow cake ring a bell. Maybe Clinton did not attack because the information wasnt true. Bush 2 could not wait to get us over there at the cost of 1 trillion dollars and a bunch of body bags. Do not try to pin that on Clinton it was Bushes decision to lie and to put our troops in harms way!!

Well that would make Clinton out to be an even bigger liar than the world knows him to be already. Clinton is the one that signed the Iraq Liberation Act into public law because of their evil deeds. Not just words did he use but actual law.
 
No what 'neutered' the UsofA is the same thing that neutered us after the fall of Saigon. We Americans can't stand a long bloody frustrating war with no clear national security issue with a constant flow of coffins from a land most Americans could givahoot about. A constant false hope of victory just around the corner. Light at the end of the tunnel and all that crap.

We have entered a new 'Vietnam Syndrome' period thanks to the ill conceived neo-con debacle in Iraq. Thanks to BushII we are going to have a period, for good or ill we shall see, where we refuse to lift a finger to help people struggling to be free...

I guess we will have to disagree on what poorly handled means- even with an uncooperative Congress President Obama got Russia to quit 'defending' Syria avoiding what many partisan pundits just KNEW was the start of WWIII, got Assad to agree to being rummaged through to remove a potent weapon from his arsenal- and we ALL know how much dictators fighting for survival love being rummaged and stripped of a weapon. :roll:

And he got this done without thousands of dead Americans or a regional war.

What the world knows is unlike the strutting and snickering wannabee cowboy of the past Con administration, President Obama was willing to work the diplomatic side of our power to effect change. He didn't throw down 'with us or against us' crap assed speeches that included a long hard stare at Europe after rebuffing them in Afghanistan.

So your wuss whine looks a lot like a pile of grapes that never sweetened up... :peace

Easy to see you will never make a living writing accurate history books.
 
Well that would make Clinton out to be an even bigger liar than the world knows him to be already. Clinton is the one that signed the Iraq Liberation Act into public law because of their evil deeds. Not just words did he use but actual law.

So the righties are gonna try to rewrite history again! Well color me surprised at this load of BS!
 
Back
Top Bottom