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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So, if I'm ok with missile strikes I must be ok with blanketing the country with nuclear missiles. Yes, I guess I'm splitting hairs. My bad.
    Speaking of "strawmen," that isn't what I said. What I said is that war is war, and you're splitting hairs over tactics to justify one being OK and other not.

    Of course, the logical conclusion of what you're saying is that the only objectionable thing about Iraq was boots on the ground. Had it been entirely an air war without invasion, it would have been OK. Correct?
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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    1. There is a HUGE difference between the Iraqi war protesters and now. First the Iraqi war protesters had a WAR TO PROTEST. There was an INVASION of Iraq. Thousands of Iraqis dying from US military action and the chaos we unleashed after we INVADED.
    When President Bush was calling the shots, the protests started long before the war
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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Well, the war hasn't started yet, so maybe it won't start at all. How about you wait and see what happens before you condemn someone for something they haven't even done yet?

    The vast majority of Americans don't want this war, and if our congress decides to do it anyway, I promise you will see a massive backlash from the citizenry.
    But isn't Obama trying to get support for the vote from the public and Congress?

    Usually the self-important Hollywood crowd tell us their opinions, whether we want to hear them or not, but we haven't Heard anything on this.

    What is the difference between this subject and all the others?

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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    1-He's right. If Hollywood spoke out against Obama, they would be called racists.
    2-That speaks volumes to the "true believers"

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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Again there is a difference bewteen what a (D) President MIGHT say and the litany of lies the BushII team DID say.
    A politician is a politician. D or R they both lie, especially when banging war drums.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    First Clinton didn't lob missiles into Iraq but into Afghanistan- THOSE were the missiles BushII derisively referred to when he said he wasn't just going to lob a few missiles at a camel's ass.
    Clinton enforced the HW Bush no fly zone for both his terms, or do you refute that? And during those 8 Clinton years he certainly did lob missiles into Iraq.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    But speaking of the no-fly zone- the liberals didn't protest the no fly zones- not until Thousands of American troops INVADED Iraq did the serious protests start. Again many Cons refuse to see that difference in a need to attack liberals.
    Wrong. War protests occurred BEFORE the 2003 invasion. I urge you to look it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Thousands of Syrians are not going to die in the missile attacks- you are just making that up.
    As an ex military man, you should know by now throwing tomahawk missiles and laser guided bombs kill innocents. If you want to quibble about the number... would you accept "hundreds" instead of thousands to ease your conscious?
    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Certainly not the HUNDREDS of thousands that died AFTER we INVADED Iraq.
    Not as it stands now, but any military engagement has the opportunity to escalate and if it does, hundreds of thousands may yet be dead at Obama's hands. Progressives will be wringing their hands in dismay and making up excuses just the way Republicans did. What you don't seem to get is Con or Prog, makes no difference - the war drum, the lies, the cover ups, the excuses and the justifications all go the same way. The difference for me is, Prog's pride themselves as being against war and here they are manning the drums. Priceless.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    You can keep twisting this to try and make a missile attack the equal to the INVASION which Liberals protested. You can attempt to equate the cost of those missiles to the cost of the Iraq war. You can even attempt to equate the deaths a missile strike causes to the hundreds of thousands who died after we INVADED Iraq.
    Again, either you learned from Iraq and Afghanistan or you didn't. Apparently you didn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I can't recall our nation EVER caring about West/Central Africa past it's resources. To compare the political clout Central/West Africa has compared to the Middle East is like comparing the political clout of Wyoming to Florida.
    The WH's argument and appeal to emotion is how these poor people died. Either Obama and the WH care about all atrocities where thousands of innocents are maliciously and brutally killed or they don't. I agree - they don't care about West Africa - now the question is "why?"
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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    Those 14 don't like war that don't help our enemies. They just didn't fully explain last time around. Their silence this time tells all a person needs to know about them when compared to last time.
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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Brooks View Post
    "Another reason some Hollywood progressives have been reticent to speak out against war in Syria, according to Asner, is fear of being called racist.
    A lot of people don’t want to feel anti-black by being opposed to Obama,” he said."
    Why do they want to kiss the a$$ of a small group? Blacks are a tiny minority in USA and most are very poor and don't even go to movies and/or otherwise support Hollywood. I'm thinking Asner just wants people to remember he even exists. I mean really - Mary Tyler Moore Show? LOL Of interesting note - did you know Asner is very involved in The Democratic Socialist Party in USA? Biggest socialist party in our country. Dunno why those fruitloops love Karl Marx so much; but they do. Guy was just some drunk living in London and talking smack (Marx, not Asner).

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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    1-He's right. If Hollywood spoke out against Obama, they would be called racists.
    Nah. When someone doesn't like Obama or the DNC I don't call them racists. I equally don't think someone is racist for voting GOP. I doubt highly that anyone would call anti-DNC folks racist just by virtue of the present POTUS being Mulatto.

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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Why do they want to kiss the a$$ of a small group? Blacks are a tiny minority in USA and most are very poor and don't even go to movies and/or otherwise support Hollywood. I'm thinking Asner just wants people to remember he even exists. I mean really - Mary Tyler Moore Show? LOL Of interesting note - did you know Asner is very involved in The Democratic Socialist Party in USA? Biggest socialist party in our country. Dunno why those fruitloops love Karl Marx so much; but they do. Guy was just some drunk living in London and talking smack (Marx, not Asner).
    They may be a small percentage of the population but they are are a huge percentage of the people working in Hollywood.

    There are no productions of any kind that doesn't have them working in great numbers.

    Remember the Hollywood crowd consider themselves to be the most sensative people on the planet so if there is something to be concerned about, they will be the first.

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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    What I think is more of the issue (ie, not the racist claim in the OP quoted article) is that Hollywood is politically very tight knit. Coming out against Obama, and against Democrats in this case is supporting Republicans would not be a good career move. So it's better to just stay silent during all this Syria nonsense which will assure they will still get scripts, keep their hollywood agents, contacts and friends and continue to work in the future.

    Dont' get me wrong, actors/directors like Clint Eastwood, John Voigt or Gary Sinese certainly stay employed despite their conservative political views but they are the exceptions to the rule.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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