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    re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W:43]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I'd say you hearing needs to be checked. The BushII war drum beating included a litany of lies to try and convince the American People to INVADE Iraq.
    And you're so sure a (D) President won't spew a litany of lies huh? We won't know they're lies until after... did you not learn anything from Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Like I keep saying and you Cons keep ignoring, BushII was against just lobbing in a few missiles, he wanted to INVADE.
    Iraq had missiles and a no fly zone for a decade before that. Missiles were lobbed there for a very long time - you have a short memory.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Can't speak for all Progessives but this veteran Progressive sees a HUGE difference between punishing a regime for using chemical weapons on men women and children and wholesale slaughter of civilians like in Iraq. Odd how thousands of Iraqi civilians died as collateral damage but even the thought of one civilian being killed by a cruise missiles has Cons all up in arms!
    Well THIS veteran doesn't see a huge difference. Dead is dead - wholesale slaughter occurs every day and we don't lob missiles into every country (like Africa for example, where thousands of Christians were exterminated by conventional weapons over the last 10 years) and why is that? One would hope intelligent people learn from Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I doubt you know any spades, much less call them.
    Speak to the subject not the poster - given your attitude, what you think is ranking very low on my concern list.


    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    There is a HUGE difference between the Iraqi war protesters and now.
    Yeah, like there not being protestors now.


    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    First the Iraqi war protesters had a WAR TO PROTEST. There was an INVASION of Iraq. Thousands of Iraqis dying from US military action and the chaos we unleashed after we INVADED.
    And thousands of Syrians will die with missiles from the U.S. playing "daddy" to Syria for the sole purpose of Obama looking strong to Iran and North Korea. That's a SWELL reason to launch hundreds of million dollar missiles into a civil war we have no business being in.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I understand how desperate some Cons are to make a yet to be done limited missile strike the equiv of a massive INVASION with hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and thousands of dead Americans.
    Apparenlty you haven't learned from those hundreds of thousands of deaths and want yet more. That's sad. And I'd venture to guess many share your view because Obama's a (D) - otherwise, calls for impeachment and overthrow of the fascist war monger would be heard from every bastion of progressive thought.
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    re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W:43]

    Madonna has come out against war in Syria

    ?Stay out?: Madonna slams US plans for Syria strike ? RT News


    yes yes yes - I know she is an idiot with cleavage but she does show that some celebs are opposing this contrary to what some believe. Lets hope we will see much more --- celebrities opposing Syrian involvement that is- the cleavage is okay to see much more.
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    re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W:43]

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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    1. But by all means, provide some direct quotes from people who have said "If you don't love Obama, you're racist".
    2. Or they just don't see it as that big of an issue. Do you want to see them whine about every single political action? Is that really what you want?
    1. You're asking him to find something he never said existed (I refer you to my red signature line). He didn't talk about love.
    Anyway, Bill Maher said the Tea Party would support the President on Syria if they weren't racist.

    Here's Chris Matthews calling critics racist:
    Chris Matthews: Obama Critics Are Motivated By Racism - YouTube

    Jimmy Carter:
    Jimmy Carter Obama criticism racist - YouTube

    Sharpton and Matthews
    Al Sharpton, Chris Matthews Say Pointing Out Obama Scandals is Racist - YouTube

    2. Every single political action, no.
    About starting a war after being so vocal about it before, yes.

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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    And you're so sure a (D) President won't spew a litany of lies huh? We won't know they're lies until after... did you not learn anything from Iraq? Iraq had missiles and a no fly zone for a decade before that. Missiles were lobbed there for a very long time - you have a short memory. Well THIS veteran doesn't see a huge difference. Dead is dead - wholesale slaughter occurs every day and we don't lob missiles into every country (like Africa for example, where thousands of Christians were exterminated by conventional weapons over the last 10 years) and why is that? One would hope intelligent people learn from Iraq and Afghanistan. Speak to the subject not the poster - given your attitude, what you think is ranking very low on my concern list. Yeah, like there not being protestors now. And thousands of Syrians will die with missiles from the U.S. playing "daddy" to Syria for the sole purpose of Obama looking strong to Iran and North Korea. That's a SWELL reason to launch hundreds of million dollar missiles into a civil war we have no business being in. Apparenlty you haven't learned from those hundreds of thousands of deaths and want yet more. That's sad. And I'd venture to guess many share your view because Obama's a (D) - otherwise, calls for impeachment and overthrow of the fascist war monger would be heard from every bastion of progressive thought.
    Again there is a difference bewteen what a (D) President MIGHT say and the litany of lies the BushII team DID say. The centrifuge tubes that were not. The yellow cake lie. The Prague meeting that never happened. The al-Qeera link that never was. (We knew those claims were lies BEFORE BushII INVADED Iraq.)

    First Clinton didn't lob missiles into Iraq but into Afghanistan- THOSE were the missiles BushII derisively referred to when he said he wasn't just going to lob a few missiles at a camel's ass.

    But speaking of the no-fly zone- the liberals didn't protest the no fly zones- not until Thousands of American troops INVADED Iraq did the serious protests start. Again many Cons refuse to see that difference in a need to attack liberals.

    Thousands of Syrians are not going to die in the missile attacks- you are just making that up. Certainly not the HUNDREDS of thousands that died AFTER we INVADED Iraq.

    You can keep twisting this to try and make a missile attack the equal to the INVASION which Liberals protested. You can attempt to equate the cost of those missiles to the cost of the Iraq war. You can even attempt to equate the deaths a missile strike causes to the hundreds of thousands who died after we INVADED Iraq.

    Now IF Obama lies about yellow cake, or Prague meetings, perhaps attempts to call galvanized pipe centrifuge pipe about the Assad regime and declares we must INVADE... yeah the war protests will start.

    But until then, as I don't recall a huge protest over the No-Fly Zones- infact Cons wanted more than that when the zones were established, it isn't fascist warmongering.

    Out of Africa-

    I can't recall our nation EVER caring about West/Central Africa past it's resources. To compare the political clout Central/West Africa has compared to the Middle East is like comparing the political clout of Wyoming to Florida.

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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Mostly because it had the reasoning of a child behind it.

    War is war. Once you start a war, you don't know where it goes. They're already expanding the plans for it, and it hasn't even started yet, so "boots on the ground" is hardly out of the realm of possibility.

    But if you need to split hairs about OK types of war vs. not OK types of war (the people Asner were referring to didn't), you go right ahead. If it makes it easier for you, I'll concede in advance that you're King of the Internet.
    So, if I'm ok with missile strikes I must be ok with blanketing the country with nuclear missiles. Yes, I guess I'm splitting hairs. My bad.
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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Well, the war hasn't started yet, so maybe it won't start at all. How about you wait and see what happens before you condemn someone for something they haven't even done yet?
    The Iraq War started on March 20, 2003. Prior to that there were 6 major organized protests. The smaller ones, they were numerous, weren't listed on Wikipedia.
    Protests against the Iraq War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Have we not seen quite an uproar from the citizenry lately opposing an attack on Syria? I sure have.
    We may differ greatly on the definition of uproar.
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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Syria isn't Iraq and likely never will be.
    That is the safest sentence ever.
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    Re: Ed Asner: Hollywood Silent on Syria Because They ‘Don’t Want to Feel Anti-Black[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Over and over and over again the right wingers are demanding to know why liberals aren't protesting Syrian strikes when they protested the Iraqi invasion.

    You think we're invading Syria? As in full-on invasion?
    The protests against President Bush's actions began before the invasion.
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