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    Re: Obama appeals for backing to hit Syria, Europeans urge delay

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Would an official UN report of maybe or probably be sufficient justification for Obama's "mini war"?
    No matter what the report says, I have a feeling Obama will spin it as something that urges us to act against Assad now. Even if the report says that Al-Qaeda launched the weapons on the civilians.

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    Re: Obama appeals for backing to hit Syria, Europeans urge delay

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    No matter what the report says, I have a feeling Obama will spin it as something that urges us to act against Assad now. Even if the report says that Al-Qaeda launched the weapons on the civilians.
    Naturally, since that makes Assad into an irresponsible leader for failing to keep his military operations (and supplies) under control.

    Obama, naturally, will leave out his own "workplace violence" problem at Fort Hood. What Assad should have done is to promise to hold, whoever they may be, criminally responsible or perhaps to simply ask "what difference, at this point, does it make"?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Obama appeals for backing to hit Syria, Europeans urge delay

    It takes time to have a proper war. No need to rush in half-prepared by any side in this conflict. Maybe the UN is waiting for that. China has a boat or two on the way. I'd at least give 'em time to get there before the shooting starts. Besides, the UN will carefully avoid attributing the event to any side, given the Security Council split. Why didn't Obama call for Congress to return for an emergency session, if the event was so critical?

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    Re: Obama appeals for backing to hit Syria, Europeans urge delay

    Meanwhile, the White House is leaking more than Doughboy with a prostrate problem.

    Pentagon adjusts plans for more intense attacks on Syria - latimes.com

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    Re: Obama appeals for backing to hit Syria, Europeans urge delay

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sorry DDD, wasn't trying to be argumentative with that. I have no clue how such operations are conducted so I was just suggesting that to gather ALL available physical evidence, interviewing every last eye witness, combing over what the US says they have as evidence, combing over what the Russians say they have as evidence to the contrary, assembling a report and then publishing the report so that when they convene their meeting, it will be available for all members. So, I don't know, how long does all that take, you tell me.
    It depends how they made their research. If what they did in the field was only and only gather data then it would take a lot more time! But if a body was assigned with data gathering and another body was assigned with data analysis while in Syria this could have been done faster!
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    Re: Obama appeals for backing to hit Syria, Europeans urge delay

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    No matter what the report says, I have a feeling Obama will spin it as something that urges us to act against Assad now. Even if the report says that Al-Qaeda launched the weapons on the civilians.
    That could have been a momentum right there. Obama would state that it was an independent Al-Qaeda group that launched the gas attack on civilians so as to attract an intervention. So then Obama would state that he shall be bombing Al-Qaeda instead of Assad as punishment for doing that. The Rebels, the ones whom may still be sane, would not mind for Al-Qaeda bombed civilians with gas. So this would be smooth operation.

    THEN! Assad shoots an airplane and it is right back into bombing him again for that for it would be an act of war!!
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    Re: Obama appeals for backing to hit Syria, Europeans urge delay

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    That could have been a momentum right there. Obama would state that it was an independent Al-Qaeda group that launched the gas attack on civilians so as to attract an intervention. So then Obama would state that he shall be bombing Al-Qaeda instead of Assad as punishment for doing that. The Rebels, the ones whom may still be sane, would not mind for Al-Qaeda bombed civilians with gas. So this would be smooth operation.

    THEN! Assad shoots an airplane and it is right back into bombing him again for that for it would be an act of war!!
    Wow. Such imagination! You should write a novel. I don't give him much leadership credit, but this is ridiculous. You really think Obama's foreign policy is so advanced? -or did I miss your sarcasm?

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    Re: Obama appeals for backing to hit Syria, Europeans urge delay

    Quote Originally Posted by Ari View Post
    I know where it is because it was a roman colony so I made the connection when hearing about Kosovo. Other than that I know nothing. lol
    Ever since the colonization by the Roman Empire, the area was re-colonized by rivals in the Byzantine Empire (e.g., Slavs, Bulgarians, etc), then Ottoman Empire, then our neighbors supported from Russia, then WW1 Austro-Hungaria, WW2 Italians and Germans, and lastly Yougoslavia till our liberation in 1999.

    Now liberated we get to call it what it always was and that is Dardania - surviving empires across millenniums.

    On a more pragmatic and practical note, the present name that you stated has no meaning in Albanian. A bit strange this fact do not you think? The name means Black Bird (Albanian Black Eagle) but does so in Slavic.

    The direct analogy would be for instance instead of United States someone deciding to call your country as Soyedinennyye Shtaty instead. Now the meaning is the same, but would Soyedinennyye Shtaty do for you?
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    Re: Obama appeals for backing to hit Syria, Europeans urge delay

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    Wow. Such imagination! You should write a novel. I don't give him much leadership credit, but this is ridiculous. You really think Obama's foreign policy is so advanced? -or did I miss your sarcasm?
    Thanks

    Obama has Clinton in his circle and thereby I think that their foreign policy is far greater than this little imagination of mine! Many real calculations are probably taking place as we speak.

    The momentum though, if really intended to go through with this, will be something as unexpected as my little example there.
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    Re: Obama appeals for backing to hit Syria, Europeans urge delay

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Thanks

    Obama has Clinton in his circle and thereby I think that their foreign policy is far greater than this little imagination of mine! Many real calculations are probably taking place as we speak.

    The momentum though, if really intended to go through with this, will be something as unexpected as my little example there.
    Hope you're right DDD. Until then, have any aspirations to become Secretary of State?

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