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    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Whew. I'm glad you don't counter my "ridiculous absolutism" with hyperbole of your own.

    Dodged that bullet.
    Demonstrating how ridiculous you were being by doing it right back to you. I see I was successful.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Demonstrating how ridiculous you were being by doing it right back to you. I see I was successful.
    Oh, so you're saying that you and other über-lefties don't favor unchecked state power. Funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I guess it just doesn't bother me. Frankly they need places like that. If I wasn't bilingual, I'd probably hang out a sign that says "speak English or get out" (in Spanish) in the window of my establishment. Therefore I can't fault Jose for not wanting to serve the gringo devil.

    It just takes more for me to endorse additional legislature beyond someone's feelings. Life isn't fair. Often, people suck. And the wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round. Learn to deal.

    Seems easy enough.
    Laws were created to address the fact that people suck. It's what the social contract is all about, so to dismiss anti-racist laws on the basis that life is unfair or that people suck has missed out on the last 6000+ years of history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Oh, so you're saying that you and other über-lefties don't favor unchecked state power. Funny.
    As the spokesperson for uber-lefties everywhere we do not favor unchecked state power. I don't know if you've noticed but we're not exactly dancing in the streets at the advent of the government spying on its citizens, the war on drugs or the numerous hits on civil liberties in the name of security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Laws were created to address the fact that people suck. It's what the social contract is all about, so to dismiss anti-racist laws on the basis that life is unfair or that people suck has missed out on the last 6000+ years of history.
    Know what happens when you attempt to force people that suck into not sucking against their will? They suck even more - but now with a just voice.

    It's situations like this where I keep reiterating Voltaire. I don't agree with most of these assholes, but I'll defend their right to be assholes. There is no justifiable censorship.

    Oh and what's this 6000+ stuff. The Earth is only 6000 years old. *snicker*

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    As the spokesperson for uber-lefties everywhere we do not favor unchecked state power. I don't know if you've noticed but we're not exactly dancing in the streets at the advent of the government spying on its citizens, the war on drugs or the numerous hits on civil liberties in the name of security.
    They favor the power the same was as über-righties do, but with concentrations in different areas. You can't have a command economy without command in very specific social arenas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Know what happens when you attempt to force people that suck into not sucking against their will? They suck even more - but now with a just voice.
    Oh yeah, that must be why they got rid of laws -- they were just making people worse.

    It's situations like this where I keep reiterating Voltaire. I don't agree with most of these assholes, but I'll defend their right to be assholes. There is no justifiable censorship.
    It's all very well until their asshole behavior ends up infringing on the rights of others. Anyway, I've already agreed that the rules against business discrimination are a gray area.

    Oh and what's this 6000+ stuff. The Earth is only 6000 years old. *snicker*
    You must not be hanging out in the right subforums. The earth is clearly 4000 years old.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    They favor the power the same was as über-righties do, but with concentrations in different areas. You can't have a command economy without command in very specific social arenas.
    You think you're outside of the spectrum by not putting yourself in with uber-rightie and uber-leftie, but you're really right smack on it. Libertarianism in your sense is very much an extreme position, and it allows the strong to prey on the weak. Again, the reason for that whole social contract thingie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Oh yeah, that must be why they got rid of laws -- they were just making people worse.
    They are making people worse. They're giving some people a voice that's really unnecessary when it comes to governmental tyranny. It's like the government forcing an ice age instead of letting the dinosaurs die off naturally.

    It's all very well until their asshole behavior ends up infringing on the rights of others. Anyway, I've already agreed that the rules against business discrimination are a gray area.
    But there's no rights there. Now if someone discriminated and it was a public sector location (or even an establishment receiving government subsidies) I'd put up a huge stop sign.

    You must not be hanging out in the right subforums. The earth is clearly 4000 years old.
    I suck at creationism.

    You think you're outside of the spectrum by not putting yourself in with uber-rightie and uber-leftie, but you're really right smack on it. Libertarianism in your sense is very much an extreme position, and it allows the strong to prey on the weak. Again, the reason for that whole social contract thingie.
    I don't think it's quite as extreme. I'm no anarchist. I just want the government only to exist to curb extreme/fringe behavior. Someone saying "nigger get out" or "beat it, honky" doesn't make either leg of my spectrum. Governmental power is your typical genie in a bottle - you let her out, and she ain't wantin' to go back in. It seems like everyone today wants Washington to solve their problems instead of doing it themselves within the confines of minimal, specific, and justifiable law. Government is no invisible hand; it's a very visible fist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Oh, so you're saying that you and other über-lefties don't favor unchecked state power. Funny.
    So you're saying you don't favor dissolution of th United States. Funny.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    He is at it again, now he is reaching out to Wisconsin
    Minneapolis mayor delivers wedding invites to gay Wisconsinites | Wisconsin Gaze | Wisconsin Gazette - Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender (LGBT) News

    Madison Mayor Paul Soglin added, “It’s time for Wisconsin for to join the 21st century and do the right thing. Eventually, we will recognize same-sex marriage – and the sooner, the better.”
    Katie Belanger of Fair Wisconsin spoke at the events in Madison and in Milwaukee, advocating for equality at home.
    “Wisconsin’s antiquated and discriminatory laws banning marriage equality and civil unions are bad for our people and our economy, and put our entire state at a disadvantage to our more welcoming neighbors,” she said.
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