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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    OK, you're just a worthless bigot clearly, so here's me not respecting your tantrum on black civil rights or anything else for that matter.
    My comments are perfectly rational w/r to the issue outlined in the OP and I stand by them. Attempting to analogize the issue of homosexual marriage with the civil rights movement is beyond absurd. Why you would call me a "worthless bigot" merely for disagreeing with your stance on the issue is even more so and frankly, if you truly want to discuss bigotry, I suggest you take your comments to a mirror where they belong.

    Homosexuality is nothing more than gross self indulgence. Period. Moreover, homosexuals are no more a class of people than are fans of a particular football team. They are not a race. They are people who have chosen, for whatever reason, to have sex with someone of their own gender. Such choices do not a warrant for "civil rights" make any more than someone's chosen preference for a certain team qualifies them for special consideration.

    There's nothing remotely bigoted in that, unless it is the bigotry attendant with some of those who disagree, who think homosexuality IS some sort of warrant for special consideration by society beyond that which their deviant, self-indulgent behavior deserves.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    Ooh - irony in a thread about how the potential for America's division over homosexuality may soon go away - by several whose obvious support for homosexuality has no doubt contributed to the division.

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    translation?: you bigoted views have been exposed and you are trying, and failing, to deflect. Nobody is fooled.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    My comments are perfectly rational w/r to the issue outlined in the OP and I stand by them. Attempting to analogize the issue of homosexual marriage with the civil rights movement is beyond absurd. Why you would call me a "worthless bigot" merely for disagreeing with your stance on the issue is even more so and frankly, if you truly want to discuss bigotry, I suggest you take your comments to a mirror where they belong.

    Homosexuality is nothing more than gross self indulgence. Period. Moreover, homosexuals are no more a class of people than are fans of a particular football team. They are not a race. They are people who have chosen, for whatever reason, to have sex with someone of their own gender. Such choices do not a warrant for "civil rights" make any more than someone's chosen preference for a certain team qualifies them for special consideration.

    There's nothing remotely bigoted in that, unless it is the bigotry attendant with some of those who disagree, who think homosexuality IS some sort of warrant for special consideration by society beyond that which their behavior deserves.
    please, please please keep posting and further expose yourself and your bigoted views
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    please, please please keep posting and further expose yourself and your bigoted views
    Thank you for highlighting the more salient truths I had posted.

    And as I noted with the other person, if you want to discuss bigotry, take your hatred of me on account of your disagreements with my comments to the mirror where they belong ok?
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    Thank you for highlighting the more salient truths I had posted.

    And as I noted with the other person, if you want to discuss bigotry, take your hatred of me on account of your disagreements with my comments to the mirror where they belong ok?
    you didnt post and truths

    thank you for exposing yourself, the lies you post and your bigoted views further

    also i have ZERO hatred of you, you are actually very funny and entertaining dont know where you got that false idea from
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLarry View Post
    Meaningless personal attack to discredit my point.
    It was not an attack and it was not meaningless and it possibly helped to discredit your point...

    Interesting how multiple attempts in my part to find this study online were unsuccessful.
    Why is that interesting?

    I'm not sure how one can conclude that heterosexuals engage in more deviant behavior than homosexuals considering that by definition homosexual engage in deviant behavior 100% of the time.

    deviant
    — adjective

    deviating or departing from the norm; characterized by deviation: deviant social behavior.
    Every person engages in deviant behaviour because there is no normal social behaviour. Whether it is Islam vs. Christianity, guys that like fat chicks, girls that like black guys, anal sex or basic socio-economic differences, there is no "norm. Your usage of the term is meant to cast a negative aspersion to who they are, nothing more.

    My girlfriends and ex wife engaged in anal sex and sodomy... the first is not the norm.... the second? Probably. I guess that I am a deviant then. As are you. I could easily find something about you that is deviant.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    My comments are perfectly rational w/r to the issue outlined in the OP and I stand by them. Attempting to analogize the issue of homosexual marriage with the civil rights movement is beyond absurd. Why you would call me a "worthless bigot" merely for disagreeing with your stance on the issue is even more so and frankly, if you truly want to discuss bigotry, I suggest you take your comments to a mirror where they belong.

    Homosexuality is nothing more than gross self indulgence. Period. Moreover, homosexuals are no more a class of people than are fans of a particular football team. They are not a race. They are people who have chosen, for whatever reason, to have sex with someone of their own gender. Such choices do not a warrant for "civil rights" make any more than someone's chosen preference for a certain team qualifies them for special consideration.

    There's nothing remotely bigoted in that, unless it is the bigotry attendant with some of those who disagree, who think homosexuality IS some sort of warrant for special consideration by society beyond that which their deviant, self-indulgent behavior deserves.
    Nope. Anti-SSM is bigotry, plain and simple. And yes, they are a class. A gender orientation class. A class that is being discriminated against.

    ...and it has been repeatedly shown that the majority of homosexuals did not "choose" to be so... That argument is as tired as, well... anything.
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    On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It was not an attack and it was not meaningless and it possibly helped to discredit your point...
    Hardly



    Why is that interesting?
    . It makes me question it's existence. I'd like to read it. Can you attach a link?


    Every person engages in deviant behaviour because there is no normal social behaviour.
    Sounds like something those outside of normal try to convince themselves of to avoid the negative feelings associated with social rejection.

    Whether it is Islam vs. Christianity, guys that like fat chicks, girls that like black guys, anal sex or basic socio-economic differences, there is no "norm. Your usage of the term is meant to cast a negative aspersion to who they are, nothing more.
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    No, just simply an observation of varying frequency of behaviors. An abstract you posted stated that heterosexuals participate in more deviant behaviors that homosexuals. I'm simply pointing out that on a frequency level within each group this claim is factually incorrect based on definitions.

    Sexual normalcy is based on physiological (function and design) characteristics. Not on popular opinion.

    My girlfriends and ex wife engaged in anal sex and sodomy... the first is not the norm.... the second? Probably. I guess that I am a deviant then.
    . Ok... We are making progress as this is something we can perhaps agree on.
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    On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    That same logic was presented in the Loving case by the Commonwealth of Virginia (to paraphrase: Negros can marry Negros, White can marry Whites), how well did that work?


    >>>>>
    Based on what facts do you presume that race distinctions and designations of sexual behavior are the same?

    Race is a verifiably innate characteristic and is constant and unchangeable.. Homosexuality is a behavior that is either being acted out or is not. There is no verifiable proof that it is an innate expression.

    Race is an expression of a person's genetic ancestry while homosexuality is an expression of a person's desires.

    I know it makes for convenient protection to latch onto the efforts of the civil liberties movement, but I don't see what homosexual behavior has to do with racism.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLarry View Post
    Based on what facts do you presume that race distinctions and designations of sexual behavior are the same?

    Race is a verifiably innate characteristic and is constant and unchangeable.. Homosexuality is a behavior that is either being acted out or is not. There is no verifiable proof that it is an innate expression.

    Race is an expression of a person's genetic ancestry while homosexuality is an expression of a person's desires.

    I know it makes for convenient protection to latch onto the efforts of the civil liberties movement, but I don't see what homosexual behavior has to do with racism.
    No one is saying they they are exactly the same. There are similarities in how they have been treated legally though. BTW there never has been a religion gene discovered. Religions also have been treated the same way as blacks and gays.

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