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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

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    I suggest you learn from history. In ancient times homosexuality along with bestiality , incest, polygamy were practiced. There are reasons why these things were found to be detrimental to society and stopped. When you do that you may have a better understanding.
    We have far more knowledge on issues such as these, today, then we did in the 4th Century. It is pure nonsense to apply 4th Century knowledge to 21st Century decisions.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I suggest you learn from history. In ancient times homosexuality along with bestiality , incest, polygamy were practiced. There are reasons why these things were found to be detrimental to society and stopped. When you do that you may have a better understanding.
    ROFL! In other words you believe the past justifications for the tradition are still valid at present. That is an appeal to tradition fallacy by definition. Is that the best you have? The circumstances have changed; and thus the old assumptions are no longer valid.

    As far as lumping bestiality and incest with homosexuality...well glad to know you think so highly of gay folk.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

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    The logic and facts that I present are what carry the credibility... and sink yours.



    You advocate against SSM and like most, base your argument on a lack of logic and a lack of substantiation.



    I pretty much never argue from a civil rights position, so you obviously don't know what you are talking about.



    And notice how this is changing. As the old, reactionary guard dies off, the newer more enlightened guard takes over.



    And unless you can actually come up with a legitimate and logical argument that has some substantiation, your socks aren't going anywhere except right back to you.
    BS alert!!! No matter what argument is presented to you in regard to same sex marriage you find it a fallacy. Let the record stand. For you to claim authority over such things proves you are nothing more than a political hack. Now I have a really nice pair of black and red striped socks I'm willing to forfeit to you to stick in the appropriate orifice. Cheers!

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

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    I know, I know. It's hard to pay attention and stay focused when you are being beaten so badly and you keep fumbling over the fact that logic and information is devoid from your side. But see, I always find it invigorating to help those who are inept at debate become better. However, I don't like to do the work for them... they must learn. So, with that in mind, let me assist you in learning how to follow a debate and how that debate originates and progresses. Now, I'm not going to do the work for you. You're going to have to do it. So, let's start here... tell me how the entire discussion on condom use started, what your position was and what my position was.
    No, no it was your 20 man rubber study that you cited in your post.

    Then you changed things to "what I said" instead of the 20 man rubber study. Way later, you claimed you didn't have a link for it. I'm not buying that. As much as you talk about studies this and studies that, I'm sure you have a link for it. So where is it?
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Nobody would expect that out of you.
    You seem to be all about expectations. Evidence clearly isn't worth anything to you unless it agrees with what you already believe.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    BS alert!!! No matter what argument is presented to you in regard to same sex marriage you find it a fallacy. Let the record stand. For you to claim authority over such things proves you are nothing more than a political hack. Now I have a really nice pair of black and red striped socks I'm willing to forfeit to you to stick in the appropriate orifice. Cheers!
    I've heard some good, valid arguments against same sex marriage. The problem is with YOUR arguments. They are fallacious. They lack logic. There are logical arguments against same sex marriage. You just aren't using any.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    We have far more knowledge on issues such as these, today, then we did in the 4th Century. It is pure nonsense to apply 4th Century knowledge to 21st Century decisions.
    Actually it was 1st century. tisk tisk

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    BS alert!!! No matter what argument is presented to you in regard to same sex marriage you find it a fallacy. Let the record stand. For you to claim authority over such things proves you are nothing more than a political hack. Now I have a really nice pair of black and red striped socks I'm willing to forfeit to you to stick in the appropriate orifice. Cheers!
    In other words, when confronted with the facts and logic that sink your argument, instead of trying to learn from your errors, you prefer to stick your fingers in your ears, demonstrating the weakness of your position.

    So, what have we learned here? That you argue solely with logical fallacies, slippery slopes, appeals to tradition, overgeneralizations, and that you don't even understand the definitions of these fallacies, probably why you keep committing them, no matter how often this is pointed out to you. What this leads us to understand is that your education on this particular issue is based solely on your ideology, since your logic and substantiation are nil.

    Now I do hope that you have learned from this little interlude so next time you might fare a little better.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Actually it was 1st century. tisk tisk
    You posted 324 AD, so I just took what you said. It's pretty irrelevant, though. Your comments were easily refuted as nonsense and having no logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    No, no it was your 20 man rubber study that you cited in your post.

    Then you changed things to "what I said" instead of the 20 man rubber study. Way later, you claimed you didn't have a link for it. I'm not buying that. As much as you talk about studies this and studies that, I'm sure you have a link for it. So where is it?
    Still having a difficult time following this debate? I know you are trying to morph it and keep tripping over yourself... and it is amusing to keep pointing out your failures, but we do need to stay focused. Tell me how the entire discussion on condom use started, what your position was and what my position was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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