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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Marriage laws target no group since sex is not required of marriage, sex can be had (or not had) in or out of a marital relationship. The beer sales law targets a group - those that work odd shifts.

    I'm not sure what you are trying to say.


    #1 - You are correct, entry into Civil Marriage does not require, as a condition of entering into Civil Marriage that the participants conduct a sex act. Denying sex through, at least in the past, has been grounds for divorce - but that is a different issue.

    #2 - Where have you been for the last 20 years? The laws were specifically written to target a group, the laws were written based on gender with the express purpose of denying Civil Marriage to same-sex couples.

    #3 - Odd shift workers are not denied the ability to buy beer, they can buy it before shift or they can buy it after the time restriction. No different then State that mandate that businesses the sell alcohol must end sales at midnight, or one o'clock, or two o'clock.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    I'm not sure what you are trying to say.


    #1 - You are correct, entry into Civil Marriage does not require, as a condition of entering into Civil Marriage that the participants conduct a sex act. Denying sex through, at least in the past, has been grounds for divorce - but that is a different issue.

    #2 - Where have you been for the last 20 years? The laws were specifically written to target a group, the laws were written based on gender with the express purpose of denying Civil Marriage to same-sex couples.

    #3 - Odd shift workers are not denied the ability to buy beer, they can buy it before shift or they can buy it after the time restriction. No different then State that mandate that businesses the sell alcohol must end sales at midnight, or one o'clock, or two o'clock.

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    My point about shift workers was that going to the bar is normally an after work activity, allowing ample time to sober up before your next shift. If you work the 4 to midnight shift then you are not going to find many bars open.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    And your argument is one used by one who is blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. There are such things as slippery slopes.
    No there isn't. Slippery Slope is an illogical argument used by fear mongers to describe a chain of events that may or may not occur. They don't seem to understand that the "may not" part is just as likely, if not more so, than the "may" part. That is the illogical disconnect and hence their fear. They blast others with their blithering blather that we can't allow or do X for fear that that will automatically lead to Y. They are wrong.

    And if you are blind in one eye and can't see out the other doesn't that make you blind in two eyes? Seriously... WTF?

    Thank you so much for bringing validity to my argument with these words. You such a strong advocate for gay rights/marriage and now we are learning you advocate incest too.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Gay "Marriage" is an inferior form of pretend marriage. It's a sham. It doesn't deserve to be in the same discussion as the tradition of marriage, which brings the opposite sexes together to form one union. From this union, new life is created with unique DNA, formed from the DNA of that child's biological parents. This all has significant social and economic purposes that are unique to this institution. Not the Frankenstein experiments that the LGBT community has to engage in to try and pass themselves off as "normal".

    If that hurts your feelings I don't care. Live with it.
    Wow, such bigoted ignorance! I am always astounded, alarmed and a bit shocked that people that are allowed to vote, eat cereal and drive cars have opinions that are so cave man like.

    Marriage between a man and a woman that results in beatings, torture, child molestation, abortion, emotional and psychological abuse and all other forms of crap aren't a sham as long as they create unique DNA then, I guess? And SSM that results in two loving and caring partners that raise a child in a healthy caring environment, etc. is a "sham"? Man, you can't make this ****ing **** up!
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    On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post

    Marriage between a man and a woman that results in beatings, torture, child molestation, abortion, emotional and psychological abuse and all other forms of crap aren't a sham as long as they create unique DNA then, I guess? And SSM that results in two loving and caring partners that raise a child in a healthy caring environment, etc. is a "sham"? Man, you can't make this ****ing **** up!
    Why do you try to characterize marriage as resulting in "beatings, torture, child molestation, abortion, emotional and psychological abuse and all other forms of crap" if its between a man and a women and "two loving and caring partners that raise a child in a healthy caring environment, etc." when it's between two people with the same parts? This is some ridiculous spin.

    Most studies and articles I've come across reveal higher rates of "beatings, torture, child molestation, abortion, emotional and psychological abuse and all other forms of crap" among homosexual relationships. Even the most politically spun articles claim there is no difference in rates of these types of things between hetero's and homo's relationships. I've never read an article/study that indicates that heterosexuals have higher rates of happy well adjusted relationships or lower rates of "
    beatings, torture, child molestation, abortion, emotional and psychological abuse and all other forms of crap"

    This hyperbole of yours is bizarre. It's a fabricated attempt to mischaracterize.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLarry View Post
    Most studies and articles I've come across reveal higher rates of "beatings, torture, child molestation, abortion, emotional and psychological abuse and all other forms of crap" among homosexual relationships.
    THAT IS ABSOLUTE BULL! One thing I know inside and out is peer reviewed literature on same sex parenting and I will literally inundate this thread with hundreds of studies on this topic unless you back up your baseless bullcrap statement by posting these "studies and articles" you claim to have read.

    THAT was a bald faced LIE you made. And if you have to LIE you do not have a good argument.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLarry View Post
    Why do you try to characterize marriage as resulting in "beatings, torture, child molestation, abortion, emotional and psychological abuse and all other forms of crap" if its between a man and a women and "two loving and caring partners that raise a child in a healthy caring environment, etc." when it's between two people with the same parts? This is some ridiculous spin.
    No. It is posting scenarios to show that his logic is flawed. The two scenarios can obviously be reversed...

    This hyperbole of yours is bizarre. It's a fabricated attempt to mischaracterize.
    You are new so I will give you the benefit of the doubt that online debating might be new to you as well...

    Most studies and articles I've come across reveal higher rates of "beatings, torture, child molestation, abortion, emotional and psychological abuse and all other forms of crap" among homosexual relationships. Even the most politically spun articles claim there is no difference in rates of these types of things between hetero's and homo's relationships. I've never read an article/study that indicates that heterosexuals have higher rates of happy well adjusted relationships or lower rates of "
    beatings, torture, child molestation, abortion, emotional and psychological abuse and all other forms of crap"
    Here is a study result that just came out recently...

    "Evidence from a decades long study conducted by Tim Rogers from the Centre For Sexual Deviancy reveal that heterosexual couples engage in more deviant and destructive behaviour, up to and including beatings, torture, child molestation, abortion, emotional and psychological abuse, than homosexual couples. Over 1,800 couples were consulted from 2002 - 2012 from 29 states.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    THAT IS ABSOLUTE BULL! One thing I know inside and out is peer reviewed literature on same sex parenting and I will literally inundate this thread with hundreds of studies on this topic unless you back up your baseless bullcrap statement by posting these "studies and articles" you claim to have read.

    THAT was a bald faced LIE you made. And if you have to LIE you do not have a good argument.
    Absolutely... Opinions such as this are generally made by people that have never known a homosexual couple, much less many... My source of information that I base all my decisions on is this TV Show called Cops. About 99.9% of the idiots being chased and arrested appear to be super heterosexuals...
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLarry View Post
    Why do you try to characterize marriage as resulting in "beatings, torture, child molestation, abortion, emotional and psychological abuse and all other forms of crap" if its between a man and a women and "two loving and caring partners that raise a child in a healthy caring environment, etc." when it's between two people with the same parts? This is some ridiculous spin.

    Most studies and articles I've come across reveal higher rates of "beatings, torture, child molestation, abortion, emotional and psychological abuse and all other forms of crap" among homosexual relationships. Even the most politically spun articles claim there is no difference in rates of these types of things between hetero's and homo's relationships. I've never read an article/study that indicates that heterosexuals have higher rates of happy well adjusted relationships or lower rates of "
    beatings, torture, child molestation, abortion, emotional and psychological abuse and all other forms of crap"

    This hyperbole of yours is bizarre. It's a fabricated attempt to mischaracterize.
    WOW
    dishonesty like this is sure to get your post destroyed by facts. You are funny.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
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    dishonesty like this is sure to get your post destroyed by facts. You are funny.
    Actually Lucky Larry is on to something. There are ample studies pointing to absolute bogus studies to show a favor in the promotion of homosexual unions. Unfortunately the bogus studies play a big role in making Law in this country when introduced in a court of law.

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