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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLarry View Post
    Marriage is not a fundamental "right" for anyone.
    Supreme Court disagrees.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    refer to post #805. Your opinions are valueless.
    Facts destroy your failed post and it fails again
    and as always if you disagree PLEASE show us any factual logic connecting equal rights being granted to gays leading to a slippery slope of something else, we cant wait to read it!
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    On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Proponents of same sex couples getting legally married and their endless quest for "equality" is getting tiring. Trying to apply "equality" to every aspect of life indicates that you don't understand the concept.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLarry View Post
    Marriage is not a fundamental "right" for anyone.
    factually FALSE

    SCOTUS disagreed with your OPINION 14 times

    Video: 14 Supreme Court Rulings on Marriage | American Foundation for Equal Rights

    Maynard v. Hill, 125 U.S. 190, 205, 211 (1888): Marriage is “the most important relation in life” and “the foundation of the family and society, without which there would be neither civilization nor progress.”

    Meyer v. Nebraska, 262 U.S. 390, 399 (1923): The right “to marry, establish a home and bring up children” is a central part of liberty protected by the Due Process Clause.

    Skinner v. Oklahoma ex rel. Williamson, 316 U.S. 535, 541 (1942): Marriage “one of the basic civil rights of man,” “fundamental to the very existence and survival of the race.”

    Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479, 486 (1965): “We deal with a right of privacy older than the Bill of Rights—older than our political parties, older than our school system. Marriage is a coming together for better or for worse, hopefully enduring, and intimate to the degree of being sacred. It is an association that promotes a way of life, not causes; a harmony in living, not political faiths; a bilateral loyalty, not commercial or social projects. Yet it is an association for as noble a purpose as any involved in our prior decisions.”

    Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1, 12 (1967): “The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men.”
    Boddie v. Connecticut, 401 U.S. 371, 376, 383 (1971): “[M]arriage involves interests of basic importance to our society” and is “a fundamental human relationship.”

    Cleveland Board of Education v. LaFleur, 414 U.S. 632, 639-40 (1974): “This Court has long recognized that freedom of personal choice in matters of marriage and family life is one of the liberties protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.”

    Moore v. City of East Cleveland, 431 U.S. 494, 499 (1977) (plurality): “[W]hen the government intrudes on choices concerning family living arrangements, this Court must examine carefully the importance of the governmental interests advanced and the extent to which they are served by the challenged regulation.”
    Carey v. Population Services International, 431 U.S. 678, 684-85 (1977): “[I]t is clear that among the decisions that an individual may make without unjustified government interference are personal decisions relating to marriage, procreation, contraception, family relationships, and child rearing and education.”

    Zablocki v. Redhail, 434 U.S. 374, 384 (1978): “[T]he right to marry is of fundamental importance for all individuals.”

    Turner v. Safley, 482 U.S. 78, 95 (1987): “[T]he decision to marry is a fundamental right” and an “expression[ ] of emotional support and public commitment.”

    Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833, 851 (1992): “These matters, involving the most intimate and personal choices a person may make in a lifetime, choices central to personal dignity and autonomy, are central to the liberty protected by the Fourteenth Amendment. At the heart of liberty is the right to define one’s own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mystery of human life.”

    M.L.B. v. S.L.J., 519 U.S. 102, 116 (1996): “Choices about marriage, family life, and the upbringing of children are among associational rights this Court has ranked as ‘of basic importance in our society,’ rights sheltered by the Fourteenth Amendment against the State’s unwarranted usurpation, disregard, or disrespect.”

    Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558, 574 (2003): “[O]ur laws and tradition afford constitutional protection to personal decisions relating to marriage, procreation, contraception, family relationships, and education. … Persons in a homosexual relationship may seek autonomy for these purposes, just as heterosexual persons do.”
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLarry View Post
    Marriage is not a fundamental "right" for anyone.
    The SCOTUS disagrees with you.

    A unanimous ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court struck down Virginia's law, stating that to deny the "fundamental freedom" of marriage "on so unsupportable a basis" as race "is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law."
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Oh, so once you got marriage defined the way you want, no more changes? That's it?

    And, um, interracial marriage bans are a lot more recent than you think.
    How old are you, Deuce? I'm curious about why you're apparently assuming that I'm not familiar with history. By the way, I didn't "get" marriage defined; it has been defined as "one man/one woman" all my life...and my great-great-great grandparents' lives and their great-great-great grandparents' lives, and their great-great great grandparents' too.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLarry View Post
    1.)Proponents of same sex couples getting legally married and their endless quest for "equality" is getting tiring.
    2.) Trying to apply "equality" to every aspect of life indicates that you don't understand the concept.
    1.)tell that to the 3 states supreme courts that already did so and disagree with your basely false opinion
    2.) good thing thats factually not what equal rights for gays is about

    your mistake, next time try to understand whats actually going on,
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) then what motivates to feel the way you do? seems illogical? did my example fight? like is adi if people said they are identical then yes i agree that would be a bit hyperbolic
    2.) see im just not sure about this. I know people like to use the word same but i don't think they often mean identical at least i ASSUME and i could be wrong. I would GUESS when they say same the mean civil rights, discrimination and fighting for equality.

    but yes in general i agree they were not "identical" and i dont think anybody ever MEANS to say they are.
    3.) well this is true, it would effect you any way what so ever unless you chose to let it effect you
    4.) well this would certainly seem to be the case, "they" feel gay marriages would be equally successful as hetero marriages.
    Well, mark your calender J, I think this is about as close to agreement as we have ever been.....Peace!
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Facts destroy your failed post and it fails again
    and as always if you disagree PLEASE show us any factual logic connecting equal rights being granted to gays leading to a slippery slope of something else, we cant wait to read it!
    refer to post #805. Your opinions are valueless.

    Btw, there are many types of logic, however there is no such thing as "factual logic". And once again, not an equal rights issue (except in YOUR opinion, which you have renedered valueless).

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, mark your calender J, I think this is about as close to agreement as we have ever been.....Peace!
    LMAO

    thats funny

    like i always said we most certainly do not ever have to agree, hell i dont care if we NEVER agree lol. The conversations just have to be clear and honest and genuine.

    if either of us are talking opinions then thats what it is but if its facts we are taking thats what it is. To many times people mix that line and dont simply admit it. I myself have done it and admitted i typed a bad sentences of inclusively called something a fact/opinion that shouldn't have been called that.

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