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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Ever heard of the Slippery Slope? It isn't a lovely moist breast... it is an illogical argument used by fear mongers...
    And your argument is one used by one who is blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. There are such things as slippery slopes.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Currently there are 21 states that now recognize 1st cousin marriages + 2 others under certain currcumstances.
    Cousin marriage law in the United States by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    When you study each individual state's laws and punishments for incest, it is clear in the last few years that the laws are becoming softer.
    I doubt you studied a single state.

    For you to quote something from Germany is irrelevant.
    You brought up Germany and their laws in the first place.

    All I am stating is the same way sodomy laws were abolished, incest laws have the potential to be abolished also. And after the abolishment of sodomy laws came the movement for same sex marriage using civil rights. People who do not find incest to be wrong, are asking the why is it alright for homosexuals and not me? Why should government be in my bedroom? And because of the new laws accommodating same sex marriage, opens the door for incestuous relationships to become legal.
    Well there are a few States already where it is not a crime. There are also states where beastiality is not crime.

    If you can't grasp that, fine. Maybe someone reading this that never thought of that notion will think twice before casting a vote on emotion over same sex marriage without truly thinking through the consequences in changing law.
    If heterosexuals had never started getting married this whole slippery slope never would have started.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I thought you wanted to know when it was legal to do your sister? I say **** it. If she is hot now is the time...
    Thank you so much for bringing validity to my argument with these words. You such a strong advocate for gay rights/marriage and now we are learning you advocate incest too.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    LOL. The only thing you might have destroyed is the letter "I' on your keyboard.
    And again... nothing. I understand that it must be embarrassing to have posted a refuted study. Hopefully you learned to do a bit more extensive research from this experience.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    I have clearly never lost in any "exchange" with you in these threads.
    Of course you have. Every time.

    The usage of words change over time, but that does not mean that the word is "redefined" or "takes on a new meaning" when the usage of that word is erroneous with respect to the true meaning of the word being used.
    This sentence is contradictory.

    I've clearly presented analogously that you simply can't call a cat a dog, erroneously misusing the word "dog", and expect any rational person to say "well, the word 'dog' was used to describe a cat so the word 'dog' has been redefined to include cats".
    This is an idiotic and false analogy. A dog and cat have MANY different attributes. A straight couple and a gay couple have near identical attributes. In fact, the only difference is in the gender/sexual orientation definition of the members. Your stupid analogy has been refuted. Now, I hold no aspersions that you will stop using it. You are well known for continuing to use failed arguments even after they have been completely destroyed. Every argument you have made falls into this description. So, from here on, when ever you post THIS idiotic and refuted analogy, I will just let you know that the idiotic analogy has been refuted, is not valid and will not be addressed.

    Erroneous usage of a word does in no way redefine or change the meaning of the word, obviously.
    Since it is not erroneous, this statement is irrelevant.

    Erroneously referring in usage to a SS-couple's relevant relationship as a "marriage" in no way redefines or changes the meaning of the word "marriage".
    Since it is not erroneous, this statement is irrelevant.

    The word "marriage" continues to mean "a man and a woman as husband and wife".

    It really is that simple.
    And I have shown that it is not that simple and the word cannot mean that if it is to meet the definition of the word "definition". You have failed to prove this argument wrong.

    Thus your derogatory comments about me you presented in the post here I quoted are simply really in reference to yourself ..

    .. Obviously.
    I made no derogatory comments. I accurately described the error in your posting. I understand that you don't like when I point out your errors and how poorly you debate. If you don't like it, stop doing it.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    You say "good to know", but you don't apologize for you purposeful attempt at distortion.
    Since it wasn't purposeful, there is no reason to apologize. I admitted that I made an error.

    Then you go on to paranoid-suggest that "how do we really know it wasn't you -- they sound like you".
    I saw no actual usage of the word, other than some anonymous posters. Since you have proven that you post dishonestly, the supposition that you could be linking to your own posts is not so absurd. Feel free to post any legitimate source that uses the term, and I will retract.

    Then you again call the word "homarriage" a theory, which is an obviously false assertion. The word isn't a "theory", it's simply a coined term, not a "theory" at all, clearly revealing that you don't know what a "theory" truly is.
    Of course it's a theory. It's a theory that they word has actual and appropriate usage.

    The rest of your post is simply more error-based posturing.
    The rest of my post demonstrated that you have no facts to back up your position.

    What this all does prove is that, once again, you lost on point, and you're unable to admit it and then simply let go.
    What it proves it that, once again, I showed you to be in error and to be unable to back your positions with facts. You should be used to this by now.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Again, obviously false.

    You mistake "usage" for both "definition" and "true meaning", two obviously different things.

    I've pointed out the details of your mistake above.
    You have done nothing of the sort. You have failed, as usual, to prove anything I said to be incorrect.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    He doesn't know how to have a discussion without lying and personally attacking someone
    Just because you are upset that I embarrass you every time we discuss this topic is no reason to make stuff up.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Your premise is an emotional argument. Not a scientific one.

    There is no gay gene.
    Your position is not a scientific one, but nothing but an unproven opinion. You don't seem to understand the concept of how to prove or disprove a hypothesis.

    No gay gene has been discovered.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Gay "Marriage" is an inferior form of pretend marriage. It's a sham. It doesn't deserve to be in the same discussion as the tradition of marriage, which brings the opposite sexes together to form one union. From this union, new life is created with unique DNA, formed from the DNA of that child's biological parents. This all has significant social and economic purposes that are unique to this institution. Not the Frankenstein experiments that the LGBT community has to engage in to try and pass themselves off as "normal".

    If that hurts your feelings I don't care. Live with it.
    This is nothing but opinion based on no facts whatsoever. Since we know that procreation is not a requirement for marriage, and we know that society supports marriage for the rearing of children, the health of the individuals, and for the stability of the individuals, and has nothing to do with procreation, we know that what you said above is invalid.

    If that hurts your feelings I don't care. Live with it.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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