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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    OK. You didn't invent the word. Good to know... though it is interesting that each of your links (with the exception of the last) goes to a post, not an article. How do we know that you didn't write those posts? They sound like you. Regardless I will give you the benefit of the doubt, though it is YOU here who is peddling the theory of the usage of this word. It's also good to know that you admit that this is nothing but your opinion. So, when you present it as anything other than an opinion, I will point this out to you. When you present it as an opinion, I will point out that your opinion is meaningless.
    You say "good to know", but you don't apologize for you purposeful attempt at distortion.

    Then you go on to paranoid-suggest that "how do we really know it wasn't you -- they sound like you".

    Then you again call the word "homarriage" a theory, which is an obviously false assertion. The word isn't a "theory", it's simply a coined term, not a "theory" at all, clearly revealing that you don't know what a "theory" truly is.

    The rest of your post is simply more error-based posturing.

    What this all does prove is that, once again, you lost on point, and you're unable to admit it and then simply let go.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Your position does not reflect reality. The definitions of words change as society changes. Your position on whether this "should" or "should not" happen is irrelevant as to what occurs. They must as, because of my presentation of the definition of the word definition, in order to be consistent with how the word is used. And as a side note, this is why you always lose in these exchanges. You tend to use the word "should" or some concept that means "should". This is a reflection of your opinion, as should does not define what actually happens.
    Again, obviously false.

    You mistake "usage" for both "definition" and "true meaning", two obviously different things.

    I've pointed out the details of your mistake above.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    You say "good to know", but you don't apologize for you purposeful attempt at distortion.

    Then you go on to paranoid-suggest that "how do we really know it wasn't you -- they sound like you".

    Then you again call the word "homarriage" a theory, which is an obviously false assertion. The word isn't a "theory", it's simply a coined term, not a "theory" at all, clearly revealing that you don't know what a "theory" truly is.

    The rest of your post is simply more error-based posturing.

    What this all does prove is that, once again, you lost on point, and you're unable to admit it and then simply let go.
    He doesn't know how to have a discussion without lying and personally attacking someone

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    ... discovered yet. Don't worry Bronson. Every time I see you post this error... one that has already been proven to you to be logically unsound, I will correct you, both so that others understand that what you say is incorrect and to make sure that you remember how badly you have been destroyed on this issue.
    Your premise is an emotional argument. Not a scientific one.

    There is no gay gene.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    He doesn't know how to have a discussion without lying and personally attacking someone
    Yes, I wonder sometimes.
    Last edited by Ontologuy; 09-12-13 at 03:32 PM.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How so?
    1.) equal but separate is factually not equal this is already established
    2.) there are about 1200 FEDERAL rights which some can not be granted any other way except by marriage. Heck until just VERY recently (like last month lol) you couldnt do your taxes in married form buy the IRS just fixed that discrimination for 2013.
    3.) all the state rights that arent granted everywhere and some states wont recognize other states civil unions
    4.) and lastly when challenged in courts, civil unions and domestic partnership have been proven not as legally binding and there is now precedence further making them factually different.

    Like i said they are factually not equal and anybody honest and educated on this subject knows this fact.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think that the block lgbt is running into is that many consider "marriage" a religious rite.
    religious marriage has nothing to do with legal marriage and religious marriage isnt impact in anyway what so ever.

    so any rights people associate with religious marriage (which their are none) aren't impacted

    so basically the facts dont care what they think
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) Like i said they are factually not equal and anybody honest and educated on this subject knows this fact.
    Gay "Marriage" is an inferior form of pretend marriage. It's a sham. It doesn't deserve to be in the same discussion as the tradition of marriage, which brings the opposite sexes together to form one union. From this union, new life is created with unique DNA, formed from the DNA of that child's biological parents. This all has significant social and economic purposes that are unique to this institution. Not the Frankenstein experiments that the LGBT community has to engage in to try and pass themselves off as "normal".

    If that hurts your feelings I don't care. Live with it.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think that is a way to do it, maybe the only uncontroversial way.
    that would never be uncontroversial because many people would see that has giving into to bigots and their crying.

    would it have been uncontroversial if instead of making blacks also legal persons they decided to make up some NEW term?

    what if when Obama was being sworn in, they said excuse me but we cant call you POTUS, that is to secret and theres to much history in this country to let you blacks have that title. We are going to call you CEO of America because POTUS cant have its sanctity ruined by you blacks.

    would that be controversial?

    granting equal rights is controversial to those that are against equality and want to discriminate but people dont care about them and they shouldn't. If thats the controversy nobody in favor of equal rights cares.

    The country is slowly but surely granting equality and there NO logical reason to change the term marriage, not one.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    I have clearly never lost in any "exchange" with you in these threads.

    The usage of words change over time, but that does not mean that the word is "redefined" or "takes on a new meaning" when the usage of that word is erroneous with respect to the true meaning of the word being used.

    I've clearly presented analogously that you simply can't call a cat a dog, erroneously misusing the word "dog", and expect any rational person to say "well, the word 'dog' was used to describe a cat so the word 'dog' has been redefined to include cats".

    Erroneous usage of a word does in no way redefine or change the meaning of the word, obviously.

    Erroneously referring in usage to a SS-couple's relevant relationship as a "marriage" in no way redefines or changes the meaning of the word "marriage".

    The word "marriage" continues to mean "a man and a woman as husband and wife".

    It really is that simple.

    Thus your derogatory comments about me you presented in the post here I quoted are simply really in reference to yourself ..

    .. Obviously.
    youve lost them ALL, every single one, not only lost but your posts got destroyed in an embarrassing fashion. ANd while CC is probably the best at it, many poster have dont this to your failed posts.
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