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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    NAMBLA is an idea. As long as it stays that, it's legal. And when NAMBLA can't buy a cake, we have the same issue.
    NAMBLA is more than an idea. It is a recognized pedophile organization. They are a political activist organization.


    NAMBLA's website states that it is a political, civil rights, and educational organization whose goal is to end "the extreme oppression of men and boys in mutually consensual relationships."

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    I believe that the struggle for equality is always the same. Apparently so does Mr. Pitts.


    I am guessing how we define and what is really at stake in "struggle for equality" and "always the same" vastly differently. But I am guessing you probably agree with animal rights equality with human rights to be the same, always, right?

    How about a bugs rights to live in America [ I mean, they would be, if born/hatched in America, be considered Americans, right? ], if we are all equal...should you not say something strident against pest control companies?
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Do you really lack the capacity to distinguish between preying upon the young and entering into an adult relationship?
    Oh so you have your red line that you will not cross in regard to sexual discrimination. Well the folks who are members of NAMBLA see nothing wrong with it. So if you find other sexual relationships equal to traditional then who are you to deny them their rights?

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I was accepted to Stanford University in 1972.

    How about you, son?
    University of Central Florida, Universidad de Catolica, Quito, Ecuador, Harvard Grad School, Rollins Graduate Studies...

    But that has little to do with whether or not one can or cannot debate. Did they teach you mainly only ad hominems at Stanford, did they? Does not say much for the program as ad homs are not really debating... you know?
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    NAMBLA is an idea. As long as it stays that, it's legal. And when NAMBLA can't buy a cake, we have the same issue.
    All they have to do is get a few laws changed...we have seen how that worked out for the groups concerned in the past...then start out asking only for "tolerance"...then when that is achieved comes the demand that they get to marry their victims...
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    See my first post (cited above). When the author of that article presumes to cite Abraham Lincoln on behalf of the homosexual cause, he is not only brazenly disrespecting Abraham Lincoln but the very cause for which Mr. Lincoln made that statement. That cause was slavery. Disrespecting the plight of the blacks in this nation for one's own selfish purposes, a purpose which has precisely ZERO in common with blacks and slavery, is blatant racism.

    There, does that explain it?
    You don't look to the heart of the issue, which is discrimination. The struggles are clearly not equal in the extent of discriminatory acts but I don't think that is his claim. Only that both involve treating a group differently, denying them equal rights.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    All they have to do is get a few laws changed...we have seen how that worked out for the groups concerned in the past...then start out asking only for "tolerance"...then when that is achieved comes the demand that they get to marry their victims...
    Yeah, that's not likely to happen. Consent is the issue there. I'd drop that one, it's a strawman.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Really? Will you feel the same when NAMBLA will no longer be allowed to be "discriminated" against? After all isn't that sexual discrimination too?
    Can't wait to see you chime in with glee on that one WHEN it happens.
    If you support heterosexual rights, you support NAMBLA rights. Because slippery slopes are valid arguments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    All they have to do is get a few laws changed...we have seen how that worked out for the groups concerned in the past...then start out asking only for "tolerance"...then when that is achieved comes the demand that they get to marry their victims...
    You support heterosexual rights. You know that argument is going to be used in support of bestiality, right?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post


    I am guessing how we define and what is really at stake in "struggle for equality" and "always the same" vastly differently. But I am guessing you probably agree with animal rights equality with human rights to be the same, always, right?

    How about a bugs rights to live in America [ I mean, they would be, if born/hatched in America, be considered Americans, right? ], if we are all equal...should you not say something strident against pest control companies?
    Thanks for jumping the shark.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Really? Will you feel the same when NAMBLA will no longer be allowed to be "discriminated" against? After all isn't that sexual discrimination too?
    Can't wait to see you chime in with glee on that one WHEN it happens.
    Oh goodie....a reference to pedophilia.

    I'm shocked you left out bestiality though.

    You must be slipping.

    Here's a thought. Men have been having sex with women since the dawn of time.
    It's legal, and accepted. Married or not doesn't matter.

    So why isn't it legal for a man to have sex with a little girl?

    Because we all have common sense and understand that children can't consent to sex.

    So why in blue-blazing hell would the social acceptance of same-sex marriage lead to pedophilia being accepted????????

    Short answer. It wouldn't for christ sakes because we are all still rationally intelligent human beings who understand the DIFFERENCE between consenting adults and minors when it comes to sex.

    Now take that ridiculously inane slippery-slope feces covered analogy out back and shoot it with something large and powerful.

    When you have something more reasonable to add to the debate come back and join in.

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