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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, those were both true. But you're still dodging the key problem with your "opinion." Marriage has changed in nature throughout history and across various cultures. There has never been a single universal concept of marriage, and your whole spiel revolves around the idea that there is. Just man up and admit the truth: you don't want guy people using a word you think belongs to you. Because you don't like homosexuality. Quit hiding behind pseudo intellectual flourish. Your posting is identical to all the other people who rant about changing definitions. As if your right to a definition is more important than equal protection under the law.
    Your premises are false .. but I realize that in order to continue discussing the matter, you need to assume I'm homophobic, as you're frustrated that I won't buy into the "gay marriage" "same-sex marriage" oxymoronic speak that the left wing has permeated the media with for so many years, subconsciously falsely influencing people to think that "marriage" has meant other than what it has always truly meant: between a man and a woman as husband and wife.

    You need to understand that I can't be, in effect, brainwashed in this manner.

    It's always been crystal clear obvious that "marriage" means "between a man and a woman as husband and wife" and has never meant anything other than that, and that anything other than that was simply not a "marriage" no matter what it was erroneously called.

    Despite left-wing PC and other media campaigns, the greater majority of society, though accepting of same-sex committed romantic domestic partnership civil union relationships, wants a different name associated with them than "marriage", and rightly so, as was demonstrated in a Gallup poll posted sometime ago in another thread at this forum.

    That's reality, and, it's a respectable one, as it respects both definitive propriety, a respect for the time-honored meaning of words, and society's sensibilities.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Your accusation is, obviously, false, and falsely alluding to me as a "homophobe" is an unprovoked ad hominem that disrespects this site.
    You don't have to be Sigmund Freud to see what's going on in the heads of homophobes.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Homosexual sex is dirty, deviant behavior

    If it had a purpose, evolution would have found one by now
    The survival value of homosexuality is pretty well established, though the exact mechanism remains in dispute.


    The Evolutionary Mystery of Homosexuality - The Chronicle Review - The Chronicle of Higher Education

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologabout 1062300247
    Your accusation is, obviously, false, and falsely alluding to me as a "homophobe" is an unprovoked ad hominem that disrespects this site.
    Like you care about respect. Your utterly irrational views that try to equate homosexuality to a birth defect and your insistence on using an offensive term for same sex relationships show you know little about the concept of respect. All you want to do is belittle and demean people because they offend your sensibilities.
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    On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Like you care about respect. Your utterly irrational views that try to equate homosexuality to a birth defect and your insistence on using an offensive term for same sex relationships show you know little about the concept of respect. All you want to do is belittle and demean people because they offend your sensibilities.
    Why is the term "birth defect" offensive to you?

    Does the person with Down's Syndrome or Turner's Syndrome or Kleinfelter's Syndrome get offended that their condition is termed a "birth defect?" I don't think so. I imagine that they understand it for what it is and the term describing their reality is simply that... A term. Applying emotion to it only confuses the reality.

    This is the same reason that every few years we have to come up with a new word for the "handicapped" err I mean, "disabled" err I mean, "DIFFERENTLY ABLED"

    If it is a "birth defect" then it is what it is and it shouldn't trigger angst. If you believe it is not a "birth defect" and hearing the term used to explain homosexuality causes you to feel that homosexuals are being attacked by the use of the term this would only indicate that you believe the term "birth defect" means someone is less valued than another based on a defect which was out of their control. Since there are conditions that are acceptably termed "defects" as those listed above, one could only conclude you feel they are lower in value than yourself.

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    On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    The survival value of homosexuality is pretty well established, though the exact mechanism remains in dispute.


    The Evolutionary Mystery of Homosexuality - The Chronicle Review - The Chronicle of Higher Education
    Perhaps then it is a defense mechanism to experienced abuse/trauma?

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Well in a country that powers that be think creationism is science what do you expect

    Religious conservatives on Texas textbook review panels criticize proposed science books

    One reviewer even suggested a rule requiring that each biology book cover “creation science.” That would run counter to a 1987 U.S. Supreme Court ruling. The decision banned the teaching of creationism in public school science classes.

    Religious conservatives on Texas textbook review panels criticize proposed science books | Dallasnews.com - News for Dallas, Texas - The Dallas Morning News
    Silliness. I will ask you to prove your theories on where we all originally came from...certainly is not science that has determined such things... we are forcing our kids to learn junk... I could agree with not teaching creationism in school but would also require the non provable garbage they are feeding our kids nowadays also be removed. If it cannot be proven through scientific method, its-----OUT...

    I will not hold my breath waiting for you to prove something I know for certain you cannot. So, now your are free to just make some silly comment and go on believing that hot load of hooey that they have fed you...just do not expect us and our kids to be equally as blind.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    There won't be riots, this isn't France. Those so vehemently against SSM are for the most part some combination of old, obese, lazy. What I've noticed on college campuses and such is it's the homophobes who are too afraid to speak up. Being cowards, they'll go to the polls and anonymously vote against others' basic human rights, but I get the impression that those who would show their face are doing it at the weekly Bingo meeting at the nursing home.
    Is this out of experience that you get your impression? As that is the impression I get of how you would know. Bingo...did that get you running up to the front?
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Silliness. I will ask you to prove your theories on where we all originally came from...

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    So, now your are free to just make some silly comment and go on believing that hot load of hooey that they have fed you...just do not expect us and our kids to be equally as blind.
    Ug..........

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You guys keep bringing up procreation as if it's somehow important to deciding whether or not a marriage is ok. Apparently it's not important now?

    Ok, so your argument that same-sex couples can't have children with each other is irrelevant. Thanks, but everyone else already knew that.
    You asked, I answered. You don't like the answer, so you dismiss, ridicule, and label it. Sadly predictable.
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