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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I really dont think about gay sex that much
    Sure you don't

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    Ahhhh-there it is, finally.... Sin is sin by whose moral and religious values? Yours? What about the moral and religious values of the rest of the country? Who made you God? BTW--what you keep saying is that God made a mistake by creating homosexual people.. My God makes no mistakes..
    If homosexual sex had a purpose and rationality evolution would have adapted to it by now

    It's just irrational filthy behavior

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    The only difference between a "slippery slope" and incremental-ism is whether the person using it is a supporter or opponent of any given policy.
    No, the difference is in the definition of the logical fallacy I provided.

    I don't need to "prove" anything to you as your opinion, approval, endorsement, acceptance are not relevant to anything I believe.
    I didn't post an opinion. I posted a definition and a challenge to you to prove your position. You have already demonstrated that you have no facts as, above, you stated this is what you "believe". Beliefs are nice, but they prove nothing.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    They can if we say they can. All law is arbitrary. The law said blacks couldn't vote and then the law changed. Contracts don't even have to be signed. Slippery slopes don't end where some guy on the interwebz says they end because it is convenient for their position at the time.
    Unless you can prove a causal relationship between what is happening and what you fear will happen, your position is a slippery slope and is nothing but an unproven logical fallacy. This is the difference between the fallacy and incrementalism.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    One difference would be the ability to procreate, and further the species.
    Procreation is not a requirement for any relationship, straight or gay.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Marriage is and always has been "between a man and a woman as husband and wife".

    That's reality.

    Anything other than that is/was simply not a "marriage".



    If there is one man and 10 women, that's either 10 separate marriages or not a marriage.

    It really is that simple.



    If a culture restricted marriages such that people of different races were not allowed to marry, that did not in any way change what marriage is and always has been: between a man and a woman as husband and wife.

    Marriages that never happened (inter-racial marriages) in a culture are meaningless.

    What's meaningful is the marriages that did happen, in that, no matter what the mix or lack thereof racially in the marriage, if said relationship is "between a man and a woman as husband and wife" then it was still a marriage, and if it wasn't, then it wasn't.

    Again, it really is that simple.

    Activists and other ideologues are compelled with creating the quick-fix oxymoronic "gay marriage" reference of marriage to allow SS couples.

    But, of course, that doesn't make it any more accurately correct to call same-sex relationships a "marriage" than it does to allow cats to be included in a dog show and still call it a "dog show".

    The ludicrousness of referencing a SS couple's relationship as a "marriage" is simply that.

    "homosexual marriage" or "Homarriage" would be a more accurate term.
    Demonstrate the difference between straight and gay relationships. And remember... since procreation is not a requirement, that is not a difference. The difference must be standard and universal. Go.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Hey look 2 guys playing dress up and pretending

    Gay Marriage isn't real marriage. It's sham pretend marriage. The sexual behavior that happens between those 2 men is filthy and disgusting.
    In your opinion. Which added to a quarter is worth... a quarter.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Your point is erroneous, and obviously so, as is your statement that it is "arbitrary" that marriage "is between a man and a woman as husband and wife".



    I've made it clear to you why mentally and emotionally intelligent society respects definitive propriety.

    It is you and those who want a quick-fix solution to the problem of getting government and private enterprise recognition of same-sex committed romantic domestic partnership civil unions that are making a mountain out of a molehill and disrespecting definitive propriety with your oxymoronic word approach.

    So, more appropriately directed, why do you care that SS-couples' relevant relationships not be called "homosexual marriage" or "homarriage"?

    That is the proper descriptive term.

    Why can't you just conform to definitive propriety like everyone else and stop agitating so much?

    If it's because it will take too long to get every state and the IRS to recognize "homarriage" statutes, that's understandable, though not an excuse.

    But if you have trouble with the proper definitive descriptive term, "homosexual marriage" or "homarriage", then my question is why does it bother you so?
    This is nothing but ANOTHER one of your erroneous theories that has no basis in reality. See, Ontologuy, I have already proven in other threads that the actual definition of marriage is incorrect based on the definition of the word definition. The definition of the word "definition" is "the act of making definite, distinct, or clear". Therefore, the word marriage must be DEFINITE and DISTINCT. This means it must accurately describe marriage. Since, currently, marriage is used to define the joining of straights and the joining of gays, the actual definition has changed... it MUST be definitive and define all usages of the word... or it is not a definition. This accounts for the change in word definitions.

    So, tell us... why are you bothered by using the word marriage correctly?
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    By calling the logical reasonable presentation I provided you "nonsense" you reveal your pre-conceived ideology at work that prevents you from accepting the truth of what I present.

    That there is so much acceptance of SS-couples' romantic relationship domestic partnership civil unions but so much resistance to calling those "marriages" is evidence that this is a huge issue in America today.

    Your "Webster" reference is meaningless, as many dictionary companies will simply let a small amount of time pass and then reassess word usage, and present only that, which, of course, does not mean that the definition-meaning of the word has changed, but that it is being used in a number of ways, some of which are erroneous.
    But you don't seem to understand what a definition actually is. This is a major flaw in your argument and shows a serious deficit in your ability to actually debate what is being discussed. I mean, if you cannot understand a concept as universal as how a definition is defined, it stand to reason that your entire argument is completely baseless... which we know it is. We understand that your arguments lack logic, but now we know why. You don't really understand how words are defined.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    False, obviously.

    No matter how much you repeat your obviously false statements, they still remain simply that: false.
    This statement defines all of your arguments.

    Tell us how words are defined.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Nope I sure don't. There is a biological, social and economic purpose for heterosexual sex. Heterosexuality isn't defined by deviant behavior like homosexuality is however. Sodomy is disgusting, filthy behavior regardless of gender.
    It has already been proven that you do not understand what sodomy is. It has already been proven that homosexuality is not deviant. Therefore, everything you posted above is invalid.
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