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On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

You can't even own up to your mistakes. You accused me of being a liberal and now you change it to liberal leanings. You sir are not only a proven liar now but can't even back up your own **** you spout. It's ok everyone has seen you for what you are, irrelevant and a liar.

LOL. You can't be a liberal unless you lean liberal. LOL.

The rest of your post, it's Obama type liberalism on display. Way to keep proving my point, I like it.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

translation: you cant and you lose to facts again, thanks for playing. Let us know when you are ready to prove your lies using facts.

You still can't grasp the definition of the word "perverse" or the word "deviant" I see.

Maybe it's not your fault. Maybe you played hooky back in the 5th grade when the teacher showed your classmates how to use and understand definitions in a dictionary.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

LOL. You can't be a liberal unless you lean liberal. LOL.

The rest of your post, it's Obama type liberalism on display. Way to keep proving my point, I like it.

Way to not provide proof to you lies. As usual, you are a proven liar. Tell me, how can I be liberal when I am against gun control, bailouts, didn't vote for Obama, against Obamacare, etc. You are one ignorant Con.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

You still can't grasp the definition of the word "perverse" or the word "deviant" I see.

Maybe it's not your fault. Maybe you played hooky back in the 5th grade when the teacher showed your classmates how to use and understand definitions in a dictionary.

you say this yet facts prove you wrong, failed insults wont change the fact you cant even back up your false claim. Let us know when you can. Let us know when you have facts to do this. I mean if its so easy just post them and teach me a real good lesson, i cant wait!
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Way to not provide proof to you lies. As usual, you are a proven liar. Tell me, how can I be liberal when I am against gun control, bailouts, didn't vote for Obama, against Obamacare, etc. You are one ignorant Con.

I'm not going to tell you that. It's far more effective when you tell and show the world how liberal you are. Don't worry. I won't try to stop you from doing just that.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

I'm not going to tell you that. It's far more effective when you tell and show the world how liberal you are. Don't worry. I won't try to stop you from doing just that.

I've already proven with FACTS my positions, you have just lied and provided nothing. It's shown you are a liar for all to see.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

you say this yet facts prove you wrong, failed insults wont change the fact you cant even back up your false claim. Let us know when you can. Let us know when you have facts to do this. I mean if its so easy just post them and teach me a real good lesson, i cant wait!

The facts is, you are still having a heck of a time understanding the meaning of the word "perverse" and the word "deviant".

If your 5th grade teacher couldn't get through to you in an entire school year, I won't be able to help you in just a few posts on a message board.

Maybe you know somebody that grab a dictionary and review those two words with you, say several times in the next week or so. Maybe then it will sink in.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

I've already proven with FACTS my positions, you have just lied and provided nothing. It's shown you are a liar for all to see.

LOL. Why yes, you have provided "FACTS" in support of my position. Several times. Please....continue.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

LOL. Why yes, you have provided "FACTS" in support of my position. Several times. Please....continue.

Nope, I'm just going to put you on ignore like I would a 2 year old.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

The facts is, you are still having a heck of a time understanding the meaning of the word "perverse" and the word "deviant".

If your 5th grade teacher couldn't get through to you in an entire school year, I won't be able to help you in just a few posts on a message board.

Maybe you know somebody that grab a dictionary and review those two words with you, say several times in the next week or so. Maybe then it will sink in.

you say this yet facts prove you wrong, failed insults wont change the fact you cant even back up your false claim. Let us know when you can. Let us know when you have facts to do this. I mean if its so easy just post them and teach me a real good lesson, i cant wait!
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

:doh

Ok - premise; you've never met any homosexuals, as far as you know, that are ashamed.
Question: how would you know, if you knew... as far as you knew that they were ashamed? How? Would they tell you? "Oh Bodhisattva, I'm so ashamed..."
Of COURSE they "embrace who they are and talk openly and honestly about it." Good grief, what do you think the whole point of the homosexual movement has been about these past 50 years? Coming out to stay hidden? I mean, the hallmark of their movement is centered around being proud of how they behave, isn't it? So seriously, how would you know?

Where do you think a sense of shame comes from? It comes from guilt; it is the attendant emotion that accompanies guilt. Take the guilt away and so too goes any shame associated with it.

That, in a nutshell is what the goal of the homosexual movement has been these past 50 years - exorcising the guilt from their behavior so that rather than feel ashamed by what they do, they can be free of any guilt and shame and behave pridefully about it instead. Shame is a powerful emotion - USUALLY its power is used to prevent one from behaving in a guilty way. What the homosexuals have done, are doing, is just the opposite - they are avoiding shame not by avoiding guilty behavior, they are denying the guilt of the behavior. They are eradicating the guilt. So back to your premise - live under such propaganda for long and its only natural one will be tempted to feel their behavior is "normal."

W/r to "knowing homosexuals," LOL - I'll just say this: there was a time I would hump anything with two legs that had an orifice or a protrusion. I know a little about what I speak. When I say it's "gross self indulgence" that's precisely what it is - and I don't need to go to some liberal arts college to get "educated" on the fineries of self-indulgence. Been there, done that. All manner of attempts have been made by those thus engaged to make such behavior acceptable to society, cleansed of any shame or guilt - but none of it changes the underlying truth about the behavior or its deviancy. I know it's a choice. I know it's a behavior. And I know one can change both.

Sounds like you are the one experiencing shame... and what does liberal arts have to do with anything? :roll:
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

The rest of your post, it's Obama type liberalism on display. Way to keep proving my point, I like it.

And what would that be? Indefinite detentions? More state surveillance? Expanding the drone death from above program?

Obama's a liberal? Silly person. His landmark healthcare bill is little more than a giant insurance giveaway that fails to curtail costs the same way Bush's Medicare D did.
Obama's continuation of the bailout has made the rich richer and poor...well poorer.

I got the same impression TheNextEra did from you within five of your posts.
 
We currently have exactly equal laws... at least in the states where SSM is prohibited. I have the exact same rights as every other man, women have the exact same rights as all other women. And to blur those lines will open the door to all sorts of unintended, mostly not good, consequences.

I would say your beliefs about his beliefs are bigoted. Just as simple.

That is a failed argument. If the person is not free to marry whom they want regardless of gender then they are being discriminated against. You are free to think what you like though you would be wrong.
 
That is a failed argument. If the person is not free to marry whom they want regardless of gender then they are being discriminated against. You are free to think what you like though you would be wrong.
That is just silly talk, liberal utopian fantasy... what if I want to marry my mother, brother, sister and father all at the same time... that would be given the green light under your "unlimited freedom" fantasy... you have no plausible argument against it... you would have to draw lines that have no logical basis if you think everyone should be free to marry whom they want...regardless.

Those who stand for everything, in effect, stand for nothing...those who stand for nothing will fall for anything and then everything. Where are you in this hot mess? My view would be that you have fallen for everything. That is not how you run an ordered society, that sounds just a bit like nihilism to me...
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Obama's continuation of the bailout has made the rich richer and poor...well poorer.

Why yes, yes he has. Liberals programs do just that.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Nope, I'm just going to put you on ignore like I would a 2 year old.

At least you didn't say you were going to show a 2 year old how you wipe.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Sounds like you are the one experiencing shame... < snip >
Past tense - "experienc...ed." And it's why I stopped the behavior.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Why yes, yes he has. Liberals programs do just that.

Which is the same thing as many Conservative programs. Congratulations, you don't get the difference between the two. Appears you define "liberal" and "conservative" by who's pushing the policy and what letter follows their name.
 
That is just silly talk, liberal utopian fantasy... what if I want to marry my mother, brother, sister and father all at the same time... that would be given the green light under your "unlimited freedom" fantasy... you have no plausible argument against it... you would have to draw lines that have no logical basis if you think everyone should be free to marry whom they want...regardless.

Those who stand for everything, in effect, stand for nothing...those who stand for nothing will fall for anything and then everything. Where are you in this hot mess? My view would be that you have fallen for everything. That is not how you run an ordered society, that sounds just a bit like nihilism to me...

I thought that I was talking to somebody with common sense and not somebody who would resort to failed logical fallacies like you are. Straw Mans and Red Herrings... we are talking about two consenting non-related non pedophile non beasteality non necrophilia non etc bull****. I am also a conservative and a Republican. Your argument is bigoted and will eventually fail.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Past tense - "experienc...ed." And it's why I stopped the behavior.

And you therefore think that your experience is universal and that your conclusions represent moral understanding... I don't agree in the slightest.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

...only Abraham Lincoln wasn't talking about homosexuals, let alone homosexual "rights," LET ALONE homosexual marriage.

To quote Abraham Lincoln so brazenly and absurdly out of context for purely selfish ends is not only disrespectful to the man but to the very cause for which he made that speech.

The writer of that article should be ashamed, as should anyone who applauds his theft of it.

Marriage isn't a federal issue - it's state (Tenth Amendment)...

The concept of "marriage" isn't a "right" to anyone....


"Marriage" isn't worth the regulations government will impose - not to mention the slippery slope...

Like government acknowldging gays or gay marriage will somehow make d difference - it wont because even individuals like myself who could care less find government endorsement obnoxious at best not to mention gay activists from the asshole to the stage have personality problems...

Cant people just be normal and not butterflies?
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Marriage isn't a federal issue - it's state (Tenth Amendment)...

The concept of "marriage" isn't a "right" to anyone....


"Marriage" isn't worth the regulations government will impose - not to mention the slippery slope...

Like government acknowldging gays or gay marriage will somehow make d difference - it wont because even individuals like myself who could care less find government endorsement obnoxious at best not to mention gay activists from the asshole to the stage have personality problems...

Cant people just be normal and not butterflies?

Most of the government protections and rights of marriage come from the federal government, not the state. So yes, it is very much a federal issue. Besides, states must abide by the 14th Amendment, whether they want to or not, which says that the states cannot treat people different for arbitrary reasons or using certain traits without justifying that discrimination by showing some sort of legitimate state interest is furthered by that restriction when challenged via rules/precedent already set forth.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Which is the same thing as many Conservative programs. Congratulations, you don't get the difference between the two. Appears you define "liberal" and "conservative" by who's pushing the policy and what letter follows their name.

Perhaps you are making the huge mistake that Bush was a conservative? If you are not making that mistake, perhaps you can explain why you consider all GOP members conservative.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Perhaps you are making the huge mistake that Bush was a conservative? If you are not making that mistake, perhaps you can explain why you consider all GOP members conservative.

Perhaps you should have read my older posts. I don't consider Bush a conservative.
 
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