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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    You're right, he was saying either the United States was going to outlaw slavery everywhere or allow slavery everywhere. Lincoln held the unity of the Union supreme over everything else, even the freedom of the slaves. Quoting Lincoln on a subject where personal freedom is given supremacy is not appropriate.
    An excellent point. Thank you.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    wow lenoard pitts is also black?

    wow talk about a failed post, that post couldnt get any more destroyed, that has to be one of the biggest failed posts of the year
    Is he homosexual too?

    Regardless, that's not the point. Do you think it impossible for a black man to be able to disrespect the black civil rights cause?
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Homosexual Lobby? Do you think they have an office in Washington that this writer works for???

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    If that isn't an obvious racist,I don't know who is!!
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    Is he homosexual too?
    2.) Regardless, that's not the point. Do you think it impossible for a black man to be able to disrespect the black civil rights cause?
    1.) nope nor does he have to be, thanks for the meaningless point
    2.) im sure, as a matter of fact he could disrespect it all he wants but guess what, it will never be racists and your failed claim is still factually wrong.

    at this point just admit its not and cant be "racist" until the definition of the word magically changes you claim is false and impossible.
    Its no big deal, you misspoke and made a mistake. It makes a good poster to admit it, can you?

    as always let us know if oyu have any facts to support your claim we'd love to read them
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    Is he homosexual too?

    Do you think it impossible for a black man to be able to disrespect the black civil rights cause?
    No, but when a black man honors the cause by applying the same principles to others, only to be attacked for it by those with hateful agendas, you can sure bet that the attackers don't give a rat's ass about civil rights and are are only indulging in dishonest turnspeak so to further their agenda.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post

    Now, if blacks don't have an issue with homosexuals appropriating a quote that was intended for, and made on behalf of their interests and their interests alone, if blacks don't believe that's tantamount to disrespecting them, then you are correct, that wouldn't be racism.
    Even if black folk do not have a problem with it, and I am sure there are plenty that do, I, a white person do have a problem with it. Civil Rights is not only a black issue that only black people have allegiance to, it was for all America. That being said it does not mean that any and every group can appropriate a civil rights stance appropriately... as discrimination on skin color, something one is assured that individuals have no control over, would surely be much different from a sexual preference that one plausibly does have some control over. The majority that has set the rules in this country still want marriage to be traditional. 37 states and Puerto Rico either have a state constitutional ban on any other that traditional marriage or by statute declare/define legal marriage as to be one man one woman. To force states that do not go along with what many would call deviance would be what could not be considered to constitute civil rights, that would put it into the realm of special rights. That should be a state's right to decide, not the federal government.


    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Homosexual Lobby? Do you think they have an office in Washington that this writer works for???

    Leonard Pitts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    What does Pitts have to do with anything? You think because someone pens an article they must be part of the lobbying group? That is just plain ludicrous. The fact is that there are Gay Lobbyists.

    Lobbying | Define Lobbying at Dictionary.com Defintion of to Lobby [first two deal with the room, lobby ]: 3. a group of persons who work or conduct a campaign to influence members of a legislature to vote according to the group's special interest. 4. to solicit or try to influence the votes of members of a legislative body.
    5. to try to influence the actions of (public officials, especially legislators). 6. to urge or procure the passage of (a bill), by lobbying.

    Lobbying - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Lobbying (also lobby) is the act of attempting to influence decisions made by officials in the government, most often legislators or members of regulatory agencies. Lobbying is done by many different types of people and organized groups, including individuals in the private sector, corporations, fellow legislators or government officials, or advocacy groups (interest groups).

    So most certainly there is a Gay Lobby, many of them actually.

    Check here for a list in Wikipedia : List of LGBT rights organizations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Much like a three year old might try to explain quantum physics, yes.
    I think it would be more along the lines of a physicist trying to explain something somewhat complex to a three year old...I certainly understood, didn't most of you out there?
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    What does Pitts have to do with anything? You think because someone pens an article they must be part of the lobbying group? That is just plain ludicrous.
    Read his post. That's his opinion, not mine.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Typical right-wingers playing the race card.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    No, but when a black man honors the cause by applying the same principles to others, only to be attacked for it by those with hateful agendas, you can sure bet that the attackers don't give a rat's ass about civil rights and are are only indulging in dishonest turnspeak so to further their agenda.
    On the contrary, I would suspect that the writer was mostly concerned about indulging dishonest turnspeak to further his agenda... and while he might not be using it, others here are using his skin color to deflect criticism of something that they cannot defend straight up [ no pun intended ].

    As Edwin correctly states, using, misappropriating, the cause of Civil Rights to apply to Gay Rights in the form of same sex marriage is an abomination and not only a slight to Lincoln but also to Dr. Martin Luther King and all the others that worked so magnanimously in this country for real Civil Rights, not for faux civil rights.
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