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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    It doesn't matter if the consequences were reported through valid studies, through personal experiences, through statistics collected by the government You sure as hell ain't about to accept them cause your intolerant one minded self won't allow you to and instead of responding to such things it is easier to keep eluding that you have the "facts" and everyone else is full of ****. What a cop out. What a bogus façade you hide behind.
    There are NO "valid studies" that support your position in this debate.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Yeah, and so....?



    ......and so? So it is the Law that counts...Some States ban SSM, some States allow it... Rule of Law...

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    And that is the way it is...a 12 year old doesn't have the right to vote...hey, that's not equal right? Neither does a person that is not a citizen here...not equal either. You tell me, can I, a man, marry another man in most states? No, and neither can any other man, hetero or homosexual... that is not separate, that is exactly equal... we can eat at the same restaurant, use the same public toilets, drink out of the same fountains...

    Just wondering, it "seeming" to be the same, you would have to explain to me how you view it as not having the same rights...

    I did.. Everyone----meaning American Adult Citizens----do not all have equality.. The law in some states segregates them by whom they love..

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    The building blocks of a strong nation are its families. Families are created through procreation, and you probably know about homosexual sex not being procreative sex. The strongest of families have a father and a mother. While it sounds all nice and touchy feely, it is less good to have single parenthood and it is lesser good to have same sex parents, for the children's sake. Also, marriage, which is a proven good thing in societies, is lessened, does not have its real meaning anymore, by this desire of homosexuals that everyone else to accept, be forced to accept, what many of us just do not, probably will never accept, as right, nor as good practice.

    Just because somebody wants something, if it hurts the whole and in the long run, you have the strength to say no...just like a parent does with their children. Cookies before dinner, gonna kill a kid? No, but it is better for them to have an appetite and eat the proper things at dinner.


    The building blocks of a great nation are their freedoms....Many gay couples have children and a stable home environment just like heterosexual couples.. Didn't you know? Married couples are married couples. It means a commitment one to the other.. How can that possibly hurt you or your own marriage..?

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    It doesn't matter if the consequences were reported through valid studies, through personal experiences, through statistics collected by the government You sure as hell ain't about to accept them cause your intolerant one minded self won't allow you to and instead of responding to such things it is easier to keep eluding that you have the "facts" and everyone else is full of ****. What a cop out. What a bogus façade you hide behind.
    id absolutely except them if they were FACTs but you have none, zero, not one though

    the projection in your post is VERY obvious
    lets us all know when you can post any facts to support your false claim

    also heres some more questions your posts will fail at

    explain to me how im the intolerant one since i want equal rights for gays and straights?
    explain to me how im the ONE minded one since i want equal rights for BOTH gays and straights?

    do you have any facts to support those two lies or is that just another failed post? id love to read them too, i actually cant wait to see what fantasy you post next
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    There are NO "valid studies" that support your position in this debate.
    It wouldn't matter what valid arguments I posted you wouldn't be satisfied with them. It could be the words from Buddha, Allah, the Jewish God or Jesus and you would still find fault with them. Ever since you viciously responded to EdwinWillers, post over the reason he does not accept same sex marriage, I understand what you are and that is one intolerant person. You have an agenda you are pursuing and are willing to trample on the beliefs of others to pursue that. But in doing so have shown many that the continuing increase of the violations in rights of conscience are real among people of faith. Because there are certainly an number of people out there just like you willing to trample them.

    Now run off and see if you can't hand out another "like" to your bros who are just like you, I do believe I hear Agent J, Winston and Deuce calling you for another high five.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    ......and so? So it is the Law that counts...Some States ban SSM, some States allow it... Rule of Law...
    Well, I think most of us would go along with that, as long as it is law established by a duly elected legislature or by a vote of the people and not imposed on the people by a minority, justices in a judicial setting making the rules. That IS specifically NOT their job, they are only supposed to rule if something is unconstitutional or neutrally decide between two opposing parties, not to legislate from the bench.

    And as long as the other states did not have to recognize what these other states have done.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    How did the lesbian couple figure that the state law overrides the constitutional religious protections of the bakery couple? They sure didn't mind discriminating against the bakery couples rights. Had they any tolerance at all, they would have just gone to another bakery down the street and not violated anybody's rights.

    This one issue makes it clear for all to see, the gay rights issues are not all about "ending discrimination" or "equal rights" it's about supporting and legitimizing discrimination that they chose.


    Ummmm What are these "constitutional religious protections" that you speak of?

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I did.. Everyone----meaning American Adult Citizens----do not all have equality.. The law in some states segregates them by whom they love..
    Segregates them by whom the love...whatever are you talking about.

    So, an Adult American man should be able to marry his adult American daughter? That is what you are advocating, whether you know it or not...once the lines are erased...
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    I posted this in response to a comment made by Bronson, I didn't want it to get buried in a bunch of BS and am reposting in hopes he sees it.

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Since the definition of marriage is being changed, I'm going to place my bet on incest to be the next frontier.... after all the gay activists claim “Life comes down to who you love and who loves you back — government has no place in the middle.”


    Shouldn’t that include committed incestuous relationships? If love and commitment are now the justification for marriage, why exempt this? The reason we don't allow incest relationships is because of the deformity in the children it can cause. But wait! Gay couples can't have children! So what's stopping them? A father with a son/step-son or a mother and a daughter/step daughter can't produce children.

    I can see a real tax advantage to this also for If that were so, if I wanted to pass on my estate without death [taxes], I could marry my daughter and pass on my estate to her. After all if life comes down to who you love and who loves you back, if a father and son love each other so much they want to get married, there is little moral difference between two people of the same sex getting married who are not related and want to be and two people of the same sex who already are related becoming closer.

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