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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    i don't know what their agenda is or if they have an united agenda but why would anybody support pedophilia and child rape.
    Why would anybody support gay marriage? It's clear lots of gay people don't. Why should society change and take the risks that go with it for a relative handful of people who can live the life they want anyway?

    But some people demand change. And they will in other areas too. Pandora's box has almost been fully opened and if it ever does we will witness the same thing, the same words, the same accusations, that have been made for gay marriage for people wanting to legitimize other lifestyles.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

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    Maybe we can start feeding people to the lions again for entertainment as well
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I get tired of the Association Fallacy.

    1. NAMBLA is a homosexual organization.
    2. NAMBLA wants to legalize adults having sex with minors.
    3. Therefore, all homosexuals want to legalize adults having sex with minors.

    That is the crux of the logic. Anyone who cannot see how that is fallacious or baiting is probably not worth trying to convince otherwise.
    You can not credit me with saying all homosexuals want to legalize adults having sex with minors. I just pointed to the connection of NAMBLA with homosexuality and the founder of the first gay rights movement had associations with NAMBLA.

    I very much doubt that many straight people who support gay marriage are aware of that fact maybe it would matter to some and then again maybe not.

    Nor do I believe there are many who understand the consequences of trampling the rights of conscience of those who can not support gay marriage in the name of stomping out discrimination. When political appointed federal judges can do that hello Houston we have a problem.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    1.)Why would anybody support gay marriage?
    2.) It's clear lots of gay people don't.
    3.) Why should society change and take the risks that go with it for a relative handful of people who can live the life they want anyway?
    4.)But some people demand change.
    5.) And they will in other areas too.
    6.) Pandora's box has almost been fully opened and if it ever does we will witness the same thing, the same words, the same accusations, that have been made for gay marriage for people wanting to legitimize other lifestyles.
    1.) people are weird they like thier fellow Americans having equal rights and not being discriminated again
    2.) i saw a black nazi on jerry springer once too with a swastika tattoo so what, thats meaningless
    3.) what risk lol why did we give minorities rights? women rights?
    4.) no many people, not some want equality and to help end discrimination
    5.) this is always true but thats meaningless true, rapist ant that to be legal, killers want that to be legal, child molesters want that legal. What does that have to do with equal rights for gays? nothing
    6.) nope this is false unless of course you are talking about some other group that would be fighting for equal rights and end discrimination against them based on laws, rights and various constitutions.

    any examples? i might support them too?
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    You can not credit me with saying all homosexuals want to legalize adults having sex with minors. I just pointed to the connection of NAMBLA with homosexuality and the founder of the first gay rights movement had associations with NAMBLA.

    1.)I very much doubt that many straight people who support gay marriage are aware of that fact maybe it would matter to some and then again maybe not.

    2.)Nor do I believe there are many who understand the consequences of trampling the rights of conscience of those who can not support gay marriage in the name of stomping out discrimination. When political appointed federal judges can do that hello Houston we have a problem.
    1.)i was aware because somebody tried this failed argument and meaningless point before, it failed then also.
    2.) no rights are being trampled in reality by granting equal rights and ending discrimination
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Why would anybody support gay marriage?
    Because it's the intelligent thing to do.

    Gay marriage hurts nobody, and helps others.

    There is no "pandora's box" regarding gay marriage.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Nor do I believe there are many who understand the consequences of trampling the rights of conscience of those who can not support gay marriage in the name of stomping out discrimination. When political appointed federal judges can do that hello Houston we have a problem.
    What consequences?

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, you are incorrect. The story about Sodom and Gommorah was about homosexual rape as I showed. As far as Leviticus, here is what those passages really meant:
    Various versions of Leviticus 18:22:
    "Thou shalt not lie with the male as one lieth with a woman: for it is abomination." 1599 Geneva Bible
    "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." American Standard Version
    "You shall not lie with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination." Amplified Bible
    "You must not have sexual intercourse with a man as you would with a woman; it is a detestable practice." Common English Bible
    "You are not to go to bed with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination." Complete Jewish Bible
    "It is disgusting for a man to have sex with another man." Contemporary English Version
    "And thou shalt not lie with mankind as one lieth with a woman: it is an abomination." Darby Translation
    "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination." Douay Reims 1899 American Edition
    "Men, you must not have sexual relations with another man as with a woman. That is a terrible sin!" ERV
    "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." English Standard Version
    "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." English Standard Version, Anglicized
    "You must not have sexual relations with a man as you would a woman. That is a hateful sin." EXB
    "No man is to have sexual relations with another man; God hates that." GNT
    "You are not to sleep with a man as with a woman; it is detestable." HCSB
    "Thou shalt not lie with males as with women; it is abomination." Jubilee 2000 Bible
    "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." King James Version
    "And you shall not lie with a male as lying with a woman; that is a detestable thing." Lexham English Bible
    "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." New American Standard Bible
    "You must not have sexual relations with a man as you would a woman. That is a hateful sin." New Century Version
    "Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable." New International Version
    "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman. It is a sinful thing." New Life Version
    "Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin." New Living Translation
    "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." New Revised Standard Version
    "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." Revised Standard Version
    "You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestable." World English Bible
    "And with a male thou dost not lie as one lieth with a woman; abomination it [is]." Young's Literal Translation.

    Personally? I think I'll go with a whole host of actual biblical scholars from the 15th century to today who have translated that verse re the above rather than entertain (though entertaining it certainly is) the "CaptainCourtesy" version of the bible.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Why would anybody support gay marriage? It's clear lots of gay people don't. Why should society change and take the risks that go with it for a relative handful of people who can live the life they want anyway?

    But some people demand change. And they will in other areas too. Pandora's box has almost been fully opened and if it ever does we will witness the same thing, the same words, the same accusations, that have been made for gay marriage for people wanting to legitimize other lifestyles.
    It's much more puzzling that people opposite SSM when it has no real effects on them.

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