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    On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

    So a guy having anal sex with a female? Not sodomy?

    To quote someone else in thread, forcefully shoving a broom handle into the ass of a female...not sodomy?

    A woman performing oral sex to another, not sodomy?

    Is this right to your seeming assertion of its definition?

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

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    Teaching should always be a parents job. If you don't trust the government to teach your child then homeschool them.
    Yeah, I know quite a few of those home schooled kids who are currently working at Walmart and who believe the world is 5,000 years old. Perfectly fine in my book.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Yeah, I know quite a few of those home schooled kids who are currently working at Walmart and who believe the world is 5,000 years old. Perfectly fine in my book.
    And I know quite a few making more money than I ever will and don't believe that the world is 5,000 years old. Try not to stereo type too much k?
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    I understand and acknowledge that the author is drawing a parallel between the black civil rights movement and today's homosexual rights movement. That's clear, but that's also my point.

    Yes, this nation was (and perhaps still is in some ways) divided on the black civil rights issue.
    And yes, this nation is dividing on the homosexual issue.

    My point is that it is not only improper to attempt a parallel between black civil rights and homosexual rights, it's also inordinately disrespectful (imho) of the former. What you have is a group of people attempting to distinguish themselves solely on the basis of their sexual preference and at the same time draw identic parallels with a group distinguished by the color of their skin. I don't believe it's proper to draw such parallels, let alone equate sexual preference with skin color. In fact, I believe it's disrespectful.



    Well, apparently, no one cares what you believe to be disrespectful....This whole thread is ridiculous and makes no sense whatsoever..

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    On the contrary, I would suspect that the writer was mostly concerned about indulging dishonest turnspeak to further his agenda... and while he might not be using it, others here are using his skin color to deflect criticism of something that they cannot defend straight up [ no pun intended ].

    As Edwin correctly states, using, misappropriating, the cause of Civil Rights to apply to Gay Rights in the form of same sex marriage is an abomination and not only a slight to Lincoln but also to Dr. Martin Luther King and all the others that worked so magnanimously in this country for real Civil Rights, not for faux civil rights.


    Civil rights are civil rights, regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation..

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Oh so you have your red line that you will not cross in regard to sexual discrimination. Well the folks who are members of NAMBLA see nothing wrong with it. So if you find other sexual relationships equal to traditional then who are you to deny them their rights?


    If you can't see the difference between a pediphile and a LGBT person-------what can be said about your disgusting post..?

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    If our society is willing to allow an underaged girl to seek an abortion without a parent's consent how far of a stretch would it be? Not far.


    She got pregnant without her parent's consent, didn't she?

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    I will probably not spend a whole lot of time with you as one can immediately tell who is going to actually debate and who will not. I will start with this and see how you counter. If its just the ad hom calls of bigotry...bye bye...

    We currently have the exact same rights [ that would be equality ]. I, a hetero, cannot marry another man in my state, neither could another man, be they homo or hetero; a woman cannot marry another woman, the exact same. Equality. You are advocating for special rights...sorry.


    GAWD...does that sound familiar--heard it before---sounds a lot like 'separate but equal'...

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Oh, I didn't preclude that being an argument, too... I think many groups, using the 14th Amendment equal protection clause, will do just that...and what will be the legal defense? I mean, you let "that group" do it, which gave them special rights [ we all having equal rights as it exists now, at least in the states that do not allow SSM ], so it would be discriminatory to disallow my group...

    Once you erase the hard fast lines, you never know where it will go finally.

    There are limits only as long as those of us that are putting our fingers in the dike [ no pun intended ] keep trying to keep the dam from collapsing... until we can get some small respite from this constant damn busting, these attempts to take down the steady bulwarks of a good society. If we can catch a breath we will come back, repair the damage already done so our posterity can have things at least as good as we had it handed down to us.


    Maybe some people should just mind their own business and keep their noses out of their neighbor's business...

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    What part of denying me the right of conscience don't you get? The willingness of the court to deny me that right because that federal judge sitting on the bench is a political appointee in the name of sexual discrimination is willing to take my rights away!
    The fear is real it is happening to people all over the place but like so many of you aren't interested in the rights of all, just what floats your boat. But some day the line you are not willing to cross will happen and then maybe you will understand the importance of honoring all person's rights to conscience whether you believe with them ideologically or not.


    The right of consciense---interesting concept.... Some people must have a very weak conscience if it can be weakened so easily...ummmm......

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