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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    So what?

    Marriage as an institution has specific social and economic purposes. It was never created so cater to all sexual behavior/tastes/desires

    Using your measuring stick anything goes. Anyone can marry whatever they "desire"
    What's your point.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    NO.....I CANNOT. Neither can you, neither can anybody, not without the others consent first of all. And at this time you cannot be of the same sex, you cannot be related, you have to be of age...blah blah blah... you have not thought this out very thoroughly, that can easily be seen.
    They have additional restrictions that you do not, you are being held up at a special class.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I fear losing my rights of conscience. It's happening to people everyday under the guise of sexual discrimination. And now that traditional marriage is no longer the mearsure, all practices are free game.
    No one can take away your conscience. Except you.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No one can take away your conscience. Except you.
    Well the State of Oregon is doing what they can to do just that with their re-education program. Big brother is alive and very well in that state.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I fear losing my rights of conscience. It's happening to people everyday under the guise of sexual discrimination. And now that traditional marriage is no longer the mearsure, all practices are free game.
    Personally, I applaud you for being open about what you fear. I support gay marriage 100% but recognize when someone has stepped up to the plate and owned there position in it's entirety. Having said that, if you could find some reassurance that the loss of your "rights to your conscience" was not an objective or an unlikely outcome would it make a difference?
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    It's really a very simple issue guys. Can any two adults get a license from that state that when signed properly and by an authority binds them to each other for life? The answer is not everywhere yet in the US, but not for much longer. Once they can, they are equal in practice not just theory.
    Oh yes...

    open those flood gates, open wide...now bend over....now say ah, " aaaaahhhhhhhh...ahhhhhhhHHHhhhhhhh...!!!

    Let all of them evil genies outta those bottles, the multitudinous Pandoras flowing freely from their myriad boxes.


    'Specially if we been 'round long as you fellas say we've been, these innate little evils we spent eons on, we went several rungs up the "evolutionary" ladder to attempt to encase, capture to keep us from hurting us. All cultures pretty uniform in the thinking, almost, if not, universal among the many lands. Why has history not really allowed this? Have to give it at least a little wonder... why? Right?

    And some didn't follow the norm, whatever happened then? Read your histories, you know what I'm gonna tell you, but shouldn't just take my word for it...check for yourself.

    If you've already done that then...sooo...

    You'd toss the wisdom of the ages...?? Not usually a particularly wise policy. One can think, no doubt, of the former faulty wisdoms of the ages properly tossed, Racism/slavery being a, if not the, major one of those.

    This is not that. Lines drawn, prudently, logically, nearly all societies in the past, at least while successful. The ones that have so far survived, concluding the way of the too much desired is not all that much society-effective. Fraught with too many instances where it is definitely the less prudent way. Family ends up meaning less and less, not beginning meaningless but on that path, heavily the path to be discounted to attract more, ummm, exotic of the traverlers.

    Should society strive to build the best foundational blocks for the future, not give into known fatal weaknesses? That, in all probablity, will do the least, probably far least, harm long term. Civilization is one of rising, up, reaching pinnacle then down. We would probably do better to guess we have yet to reach our pinnacle, though we have already done quite well. I think I could confidently say better, up to this point, or almost this point, than anyone ever in the history of the planet. One should not start to even think of looking down, that surely means a fall. Pick out any of the astronomical number of rises and falls, at any and all levels: families, tribes, clans, villages, states, empires, corporations, churches, political parties, apparently its inevitable... but always better to keep striving ahead, upwards, staying strong, keeping to the basics of what brought you this very far...at least minimally, or one logically will begin to sink.

    Morality, listen close to the founders, is simply a necessity. To be moral you have to have one, a morality. Not sliding scales sliding inevitably downward, nobody allowed to even to know which way would be up, that being discriminatory all being now "equal" you see.

    Has modern man been given everything only to then end up wanting even more... to the point of too much? Have we not even the scantiest ability at self restraint, must we plunge feet first into the rabbit hole, down into the fog of more chaotic elements, through the various rings, Dante nodding us along... And I well know that does, indeed, look as much like up as anything else to you, but....

    Wwwhy? Its just... kinda a dumb position. You cannot accept acceptance, just gotta push it, huh? I guess that is human nature, too. ....But, back back in this brand new comfy airtight canister we made just for the occasion now, sorry...gotta be done...you know, for the collective [ that should make you feel a bit better anyhow ]...

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    You didn't hear about the manic riots looting food hoarding gasoline shortages that happened in MA when gay marriage became legal there!
    Have you seen the devastation, turmoil, and utter chaos going on in the Netherlands, New Zealand, and Canada????

    It's disgusting and frightening.

    Zombies are eating babies right from the womb. Dogs and cats are mating in the streets. It's hell.......HELL.

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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Really? Will you feel the same when NAMBLA will no longer be allowed to be "discriminated" against? After all isn't that sexual discrimination too?
    Can't wait to see you chime in with glee on that one WHEN it happens.
    LMAO, as soon as anybody brings up pedophilia, child rape and or bestiality and try to compare it to equal rights for gays its an instant failure. Its the fastest way not to be taken seriously and nobody honest, educated and objective falls for it. Its hilarious anybody thinks that comparison would ever work,

    Its a failed stawman.

    its reminds me of the bigots in history, well if we let women vote we might as well let dogs vote, if we let the coons be men, my horse might as well be a man too.

    and the funny thing is your comic PROVES how failed of analogy it is, you must not understand the comic you posted
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Well the State of Oregon is doing what they can to do just that with their re-education program. Big brother is alive and very well in that state.
    Be an active parent and the public school cannot "re-educate" your kids.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I fear losing my rights of conscience. It's happening to people everyday under the guise of sexual discrimination. And now that traditional marriage is no longer the mearsure, all practices are free game.
    "Traditional marriage" has changed several times. Does this mean "all practices are free game?"

    I guess I'm just having a hard time understanding why people think this "immorality" is the final straw that opens up every awful thing you can come up with.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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