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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Well, let me count the ways...marriage, which the left has made myriad attempts to discredit by pushing easier divorce rules, have pushed hard to make it politically incorrect to shame those who would give birth outside of marriage which was and should be the proper way to have children, the folks that have advocated so hard and passed legislation for Great Society programs that in effect push the father out of the equation and now you want to make it a laughing stock by going against thousands of years of Western tradition, that goes against the tenets of any of the major religions. The fact that this will unlock other doors, other Pandora boxes in which the demons will destroy, make a mockery, as does SSM, of the idea of marriage. Once you erase the traditional lines, once you go with the silliness of letting anybody that "truly loves" each other be the only real criteria for allowance of marriage, you are going to get brothers marrying sisters, brothers or any combination of such, marrying each other, fathers with daughters, sons with mothers, sons and daughters marrying either parent they want [ as long as they are of age and are "in love" ] or even both...once tradition goes and that line breached, who is to say a three year old, since all sense will be long since be gone, cannot marry? As long as they love each other its okay, right?

    An analogy might be when we had social promotions, then you could not really tell who had earned a diploma and so the diploma started becoming a sham...meant little. If anyone can be awarded a diploma, if anybody can be married, then it means little if not nothing.

    The unintended consequences of what it is your side proposes, for the selfish sake of such a few, is absolutely astounding. There, now that you have some clues one cannot any longer claim to be ignorant, clueless.

    Thought so, nothing more than religiously-based bias against humans who don't think as you
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) actually its not because of the people in it, thats reality, you know how presidents care about NY, FLORIDA, CALIFORNIA, TEXAS cause of population? yeah same basic concept lol that's REALITY
    2.) yes all human make mistakes
    3.) you are free to have that opinion but history and facts prove you wrong. good move not arguing against those facts not injuring your head arguing against them.
    4.) also not the case has proven by recent SSC cases
    5.) no bias at all i stand for equal rights and not discrimination. nice try but its a fail. your welcome, game is over and you are losing. dont cry about it
    6.) let me know when you do this
    7.) im happy we the US is fighting for equality, dont see me crying about it you see me supporting it, i like that my country protects my fellow Americans rights
    8.) yes Canada is another place they like equality and you wont be happy in, so now you have identified two place that wont make you happy, your first steps are already done
    9.) your angry and emotion is showing lol see which one of us is happy? its me. and i accept your concession. Let us know how russia is,
    Try to make some sense and then maybe we can chat. Besides, we have already argued all this and you lost, not going to fight a battle I already won with someone who won't even remember it...I mean, why?

    Oh, you are happy all right, blissfully obliviously happy no doubt, with those positions...wow...lol... good luck with all that. Me? I am happy enough not to waste any more of my time. Ciao.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    1.)Try to make some sense and then maybe we can chat. Besides, we have already argued all this and you lost, not going to fight a battle I already won with someone who won't even remember it...I mean, why?
    2.)Oh, you are happy all right, blissfully obliviously happy no doubt, with those positions...wow...lol... good luck with all that. Me? I am happy enough not to waste any more of my time. Ciao.
    1.) wrong again, facts have never lost to your lies, FAIL
    let me know when you have anything that backs up your failed claims, lies never defeat facts
    2.) again yes im very happy discrimination is losing and equality is winning, i accpet your concession and dont forget let me us know what Russia is like
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Thought so, nothing more than religiously-based bias against humans who don't think as you
    you expected something else? every post he makes is fallacy based, flat out lies and or bigoted views and gets destroyed by any poster that tries.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Thought so, nothing more than religiously-based bias against humans who don't think as you
    Good non comeback. Empty but deliciously and mercifully succinct in the saying of nothing. Thanks.

    PS...remember, you cannot anymore make the lefty clueless claim. Now you know.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    you expected something else? every post he makes is fallacy based, flat out lies and or bigoted views and gets destroyed by any poster that tries.
    Except by you or any other lib...ha ha ha...hurts I know...but you are happy, obviously obliviously blissfully happy...so smile...ha ha ha... with your positions on everything, what else ya got, might as well smile...
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Except by you or any other lib...ha ha ha...hurts I know...but you are happy, obviously obliviously blissfully happy...so smile...ha ha ha... with your positions on everything, what else ya got, might as well smile...

    I'm not happy because I really dislike bigotry and I encounter far too much in our society. I'm one of the privileged ones, European descent, affluent, college educated, well traveled - so when I see those not as privileged as I am, I try to do something to change the situation. Others seem to prefer returning to a time when only those like myself had any opportunity. I think that would be incredibly stupid but some folks don't see it that way, for them any change in their privileged status is discrimination against the ones who 'deserve' societal preference
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Except by you or any other lib...ha ha ha...hurts I know...but you are happy, obviously obliviously blissfully happy...so smile...ha ha ha... with your positions on everything, what else ya got, might as well smile...
    i dont even know what that says? im myself am a horrible typer and i still cant make that out
    also im not a lib, just another failure by you,

    you in russia yet?
    any facts to support your failed claims yet?

    let us know!
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I'm not happy because I really dislike bigotry and I encounter far too much in our society. I'm one of the privileged ones, European descent, affluent, college educated, well traveled - so when I see those not as privileged as I am, I try to do something to change the situation. Others seem to prefer returning to a time when only those like myself had any opportunity. I think that would be incredibly stupid but some folks don't see it that way, for them any change in their privileged status is discrimination against the ones who 'deserve' societal preference
    Wow, sounds like maybe a lot of projection going on there.

    You are a privileged white liberal self saddled with white guilt because you have not, perhaps, earned what you have. But to make such vapid statements about people wanting only those of European descent to be "privileged" speaks volumes about who you might be...hard to tell specifically, but you seem to feel that your jaundiced and inaccurate view is the one that should be somehow the "privileged" view.

    I see what liberalism has done to destroy the foundations of my once strong, once very proud and still yet a great nation, even though you folks have us staggering, teetering under all this massive regulation, massive amounts of legislation, all these cries of victimhood and all this anything goes attitude... its suicidal and most of us do not want to sign on to that pact of mutual death.

    Opportunity, while more limited under the current president, still abounds in this nation, has for a long time...just have to keep clean and work hard. Some will fall thru the cracks but most will go from being poor, as I was upon graduating from high school, to right up into the middle class somewhere...or even higher. Trying to pay my own way through college [ there just weren't very many scholarships for white males, still aren't...its not like the majority of those who are poor are not white] on a lot of peanut butter and bread.

    In any event, the majority get to make the rules, we have time honored traditions that have proven themselves over the years...you have no answers, you just feel guilty and this surface thought seems to get allayed in you if you just let all "those folks that want something" just, well, just let them have it...who cares what distress and calamities it may bring in the future, they will be happy for a few seconds and so its all worth it... who needs a strong America anyhow, right?

    College educated is more and more becoming synonymous with not having even a shred of common sense. Thank god I self-educated on reality after my indoctrination at university.
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    Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    i dont even know what that says? im myself am a horrible typer and i still cant make that out
    also im not a lib, just another failure by you,

    you in russia yet?
    any facts to support your failed claims yet?

    let us know!
    I cannot help you with your reading comprehension, you will just have to work on that...and you are a lib, you may not know it, but yeah...very liberal. bubbye
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